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Thread: Is it normal for Alox to gum up pistol chambers?

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    Is it normal for Alox to gum up pistol chambers?

    I have the problem on 2 different pistols. One is a Dan Wesson Razorback and the other is a Rock Island Tac Ulta HC both in 10mm. After shooting several rds, and I haven't kept count the cartridges stop chambering. If I clean the chamber I'm back up and running. Not a huge hassle, but I don't have to do this with my 9's and 40's. Looking at my casts I can see a brown coating on the boolits. Perhaps I'm using too much lube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chutestrate View Post
    Perhaps I'm using too much lube.
    Too much alox, especially uncut, can make a number of messes of things.


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    Have you looked at your seater stem lately? Alox may be collecting up in there too.

    You could wipe the rounds clean after loading...or...look into a different method of lubing all together.
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    I'll look into other lubing methods. I've seen threads I can search. I guess I haven't because I have A LOT of Alox to use up.

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    I use alox and have never had that trouble, even after a couple of hundred rounds.
    I once fired 400 rounds of alox covered boolits through my Target Masterpiece before I cleaned it and it never quit chambering rounds.

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    All conventional type lubes will eventually gum things up. It burns & mixes with the burned powder to create a sludge. Been that way for decades. A couple 100 rds, not an issue but for many of us, that is a very short day of shooting.
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    yup any bullet lube will foul an action if you shoot enough. Alox isn't to bad if its a real light coat but it can get pretty greasy if you put a good coat on the bullets. Anymore with pc coating most of my semi auto ammo is just coated and those run about as clean as jacketed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Recluse View Post
    Too much alox, especially uncut, can make a number of messes of things.

    Too much of any lube will cause everything to gum up.
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    What boolit are you using? Are you getting any leading?
    Use less or make 45-45-10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tazman View Post
    I use alox and have never had that trouble, even after a couple of hundred rounds.
    I once fired 400 rounds of alox covered boolits through my Target Masterpiece before I cleaned it and it never quit chambering rounds.
    Some people use way too much, too many coats, or don't allow it to cure, or have let its solvent evaporate a bit, and don't re-thin it as needed, then get bad results, and blame the lube. Probably some of the same that complain about a little microscopic whiff of smoke from large grease groove bullets.

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    Never had that problem with any flavor of BLL. Or any thinned Alox. I won't use it straight.

    You might try cleaning the noses with a rag and some mineral spirits.

    Thinned to the point it pours like coke. Then 2 very light coats for pistol bullets. So thin you can just almost see a color change, but maybe not for positive.

    But the bullets look a little fuzzy. Guess I need to take some pictures tommorow.

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    cut your alox with some mineral spirits 50-50.
    heat it up.
    heat the bullets up then put about 1/4 the amount you think you need for the first coat.
    size.
    repeat the coat.
    you should have a dry gold colored wash.

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    No real problem with leading in my barrels. Just annoying that i have to clean after a while of shooting. I'll try to reduce the amount i use.

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    I tumble lube in paste wax and then add a drip of Alox and tumble lube again - basically in a tupperware container. All I use is Alox/PW and I've never had an issue with gumming, etc. - both a variety of pistol cartridges as well as 30/30 and 8mm Mauseer.

    Personally, I think that those that do have an issue with thck/gummy/not drying well are probably using too much - a little goes a long ways. I've had Alox get thicker in a bottle over time and I just add a little mineral spirits to thin it down again some. After TL, I spread out on wax paper on a table, usually sitting the boolit not the base but not always - depends on the boolit. My seating dies remain clean and never an issue in the handgun whether a semi-auto or a revolver.

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