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Thread: Four Keith Type 44 Caliber Bullets

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    Jrmartin1964,

    They do not exit. First off if you will read my #17&19 posts you will see the forms the Keith had.
    The bullet you posted with the hp and GC is a Ray Thompson design not a Keith. The Ray Thompson design came way after the Keith. The Keith was only in solid nose, hollow point and hollow base design.
    No gas check.
    Go back and read my post #17&19.
    If you know of a Keith from Lyman with a GC and a HP on the same bullet either,show it or let us know where we can see it where it is noted that is is a Lyman mold and not a custom.

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    looks like there is a pic of one in post number 20.

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    OHAUS 44-250-K

    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...OHAUS-44-250-K

    not sure Mr. Kieth would like the rounded lube groove, but I imagine he'd approve powder coating if he saw it.

    I like this mold, but wish it was a 4 cavity.

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    some of these are LEE, GC milled off, now 270gr...

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    Post 20 shows a Ray Thompson design that is a HP and GC on the same bullet.

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    if you look at the second picture it is a ideal-lyman mold not a Thompson. back when I ordered mine the a list said Keith the b list said gas check and the c list said h-p.

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    That is not a gas check bullet. Anyone here can see that. Enlarge the photo and you will see. I didn't fall off the turnip truck last night.

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    I have a half dozen 503's. Standard models and custom order. I have come to the conclusion that over Hensley & Gibb's 60 year manufacturing span, cherry design was an "eyeball" thing and not a scaled blueprint. Wayne Gibbs "bullet board" where he posted samples of each design was most likely his reference library for design. My opinion.

    As to my half dozen 503's, Few are exactly the same. What is odd about my collection is that driving bands on all of them are wide on the older ones (1950's era) and thinner on the 70's era ones, and then wide again on almost all the custom order ones (80's/90's).

    They all perform spectacularly. Can't tell the difference between any of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texasflyboy View Post
    I have a half dozen 503's. Standard models and custom order. I have come to the conclusion that over Hensley & Gibb's 60 year manufacturing span, cherry design was an "eyeball" thing and not a scaled blueprint. Wayne Gibbs "bullet board" where he posted samples of each design was most likely his reference library for design. My opinion.

    As to my half dozen 503's, Few are exactly the same. What is odd about my collection is that driving bands on all of them are wide on the older ones (1950's era) and thinner on the 70's era ones, and then wide again on almost all the custom order ones (80's/90's).

    They all perform spectacularly. Can't tell the difference between any of them.

    Tom
    Same result I found with the Lyman 429421's of different front band widths. I also noticed no appreciable difference in accuracy between the round lube groove and the square lube groove boolits.
    It's all chicken, even the beak!

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    really liking my Arsenal 503 mold.

    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...3-Quick-review



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    There's a group buy discussion for an Elmer Keith tribute edition of molds. Original design 429421 and 429422.

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check