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    Question Hollow base moulds

    So Wholesale Sports in Canada is closing its doors, I bought a .458 mould for my 45/70's when I got home I realized it was hollow based, will this make a difference?

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    The original BP bullets were hollow-based. As long as you don't exceed black powder velocities you will be fine. Above 1400 fps you want a GC bullet.
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    You can always have the pin turned flat or have a flat pin made.

    In my experience you do not need a gas check until you reach pretty high pressures.

    I used to have an 1895 Marlin and converted Siamese Mauser. Both were fed top end loads (respectively) under PB boolits and leading was never a problem for me using the Lee 405 gr. flat point, Lyman 457124 385 gr. and Lyman 457125 500 gr. boolits.

    Not saying a gas check might not make life easier but I never had a problem.

    That HB mould might be a different matter. As Outpost75 says, you should okay at BP pressures but the skirt may blow out or extrude at higher pressures.

    Which mould did you get?

    Longbow

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    I got a Lee 405 grain, I will be using it in 2 Sharps replicas and a Rolling Block replica so won’t be pushing them that fast.

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    I to made the same mistake and had the same question. I was thinking that maybe I would only use it with the holy black for fun occasions my lever is a bear to tear down for cleaning.

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    The Lee 405 gr HB is a replica of the original 45-70 bullet made for the trapdoor US M1873 rifle and carbine. It actually is not a hollow base as is a minie' bullet but is referred to as a "dish". It is there to regulate the weight of the bullet at 405 gr while keeping the external bullet dimensions consistent.

    At trapdoor 45-70 level loads with BP or smokeless it will do fine.
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    thanks larry your input is appreciated

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    I have the Lee 405gr. HB mould and it's a favorite. My Henry 45-70 really likes that bullet. As mentioned above it's not a typical HB with the thin skirt for expansion but rather a means of controlling the weight of the bullet. Gp

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    Thanks for the replies

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check