HELP to identify this rifle

[atr]

I could use your help to identify this rifle and caliber if possible. There are no identifiable marks on the receiver or barrel.
1. Cocks on opening
2. has 2 lugs on the bolt...the bolt rotates similar to a Mauser
3. the magazine appears to be a single stack....it is hinged at the bottom
4. the bolt has a small extractor claw....not as massive as the Mauser but still a claw...
5. The rifling appears very aggressive.
6. The caliber is at least .30
....my first guess was that it was Swiss manuf....Beyond this I am clueless
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[obssd1958]

I'm going to guess ---- Mosin-Nagant

some info here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosin%E2%80%93Nagant

[mcdaniel.mac]

Yep, that's a nugget (Mosin Nagant) that someone has sporterized and jeweled.

[atr]

Thanks !
now the real hard part...caliber? Apparently, according to Wikipedia, there are some variations in caliber. What is the best way for me to determine the caliber?

[vzerone]

Thanks !
now the real hard part...caliber? Apparently, according to Wikipedia, there are some variations in caliber. What is the best way for me to determine the caliber?

The Mosin's standard caliber is 7.62x54R. R for rimmed.

[RPRNY]

The most certain way is to do a chamber cast. But, if the bolt face is @ .567", the chamber length to throat is about 2.12" long and a .308 bullet seems a slightly loose fit in the muzzle, then it is most likely 7.62x54R. If in doubt, cadge a sized case from someone and see how it chambers. If not smooth or an obvious misfit, then you need to do a chamber cast with Cerrosafe.

[frkelly74]

That is a sows ear made into a silk purse, metaphorically speaking of course.

[Mytmousemalibu]

Yup, Mosin Nagant with out a shadow of a doubt, at least the action is anyway. Need pics of the whole rifle, barrel marks, etc. It could be a rechambered/rebarreled gun since someone went through the trouble of all that nice engraving and jeweling. There's a strong chance its still the venerable 7.62x54R.

[Texas by God]

That is a pretty Mosin. A sentence rarely used. Nice wood.

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[vzerone]

That is a pretty Mosin. A sentence rarely used. Nice wood.

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Texas by God, there is/was a gunsmith that wrote in one of the popular gunrags that did a custom Mosin. What was different about his is he eliminated the magazine from protruding out of the bottom of the rifle and had a more streamline trigger guard on it. It also has a beautiful premium piece of walnut on it. I'm positive you would have drooled over it. He said he was going to do a step by step article on how he made that rifle, but he never did. It was the finest example of a Mosin I've ever seen. Here's a picture of it.

[Hardcast416taylor]

Thanks !
now the real hard part...caliber? Apparently, according to Wikipedia, there are some variations in caliber. What is the best way for me to determine the caliber?

Yes the standard Nagant chambering is the 7.62X54R cartridge. However, there has been wildcatting done with the rifle and cartridge. Myself and 3 others have made up sportered Nagants wildcatted to the `.416 Russian Express`. We rebarreled with a .416" barrel bland which we chanbered to the standard case opened up for .416 cal. boolets. We found the Accurate #42-330C to work best for feeding and both velocity and range. We doubt there is not much this round wouldn`t bring down on the N. American continent.Robert

[sharps4590]

Texas by God, there is/was a gunsmith that wrote in one of the popular gunrags that did a custom Mosin. What was different about his is he eliminated the magazine from protruding out of the bottom of the rifle and had a more streamline trigger guard on it. It also has a beautiful premium piece of walnut on it. I'm positive you would have drooled over it. He said he was going to do a step by step article on how he made that rifle, but he never did. It was the finest example of a Mosin I've ever seen. Here's a picture of it.

Heavens to Betsy!!! An honestly attractive Mosin....never thought I'd see the day.

[vzerone]

Heavens to Betsy!!! An honestly attractive Mosin....never thought I'd see the day.

LOL I said the same thing! Notice the bolt handle is moved back and I believe he said something about a different safety.

[Texas by God]

I remember the rifle and the article. That is Reid Coffield's work and it is amazing.

[vzerone]

I remember the rifle and the article. That is Reid Coffield's work and it is amazing.

Yes sir you are absolutely correct. I couldn't remember his name. He did articles in Shooting Times. I remember he gave the readers a glimpse of that and said he would do an article on Shooting Times on how to do it. I never seen and don't think that he did.

[atr]

thanks again guys...it is a standard 7.62x54R....everything fits and the rounds chamber easily.
atr

[Gavetta]

what a fine looking rifle,great lines,an artist.

[OptimusPanda]

Since it looks like the markings have been ground off and engraved over, you could take the stock off and under the tang will be a date of manufacture and arsenal mark. Assuming you were curious to know when it was made and by who.

[Texas by God]

they bent the bolt, why bend the bolt on a mosin nagant? I do admit, really really nice wood on the OP pictures. id like that stock.

They may have been thinking of mounting a scope. But they probably did it for appearance and function. A bent bolt handle has every advantage over a straight one.

[vzerone]

They may have been thinking of mounting a scope. But they probably did it for appearance and function. A bent bolt handle has every advantage over a straight one.

I often wondered why the Mosin's bolt was stubby and short. I answer I got, being Russia has some severe winters the bolt can get frozen shut. They made it short and stout so you could pound on it to get is open. Makes sense.