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    44-40 Stub job

    I'm ordering a Green Mtn 44-40 25" rifled blank to build a rifle from a 12 ga NEF topper. I will be taking pics along the way.
    My first stub job so I will be bugging at least a couple of you guys.......
    Before you say to do a .44 mag instead- No. I have a soft spot for the 44 WCF.
    Best, Thomas

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    Before you cut that shotgun barrel off think of this option. I have done over 20 liner in a shotgun barrel to make single shot rifles. Mostly from H&R shotguns and the topper is the best of them as it has the slim barrel profile already.
    You can turn your 44 blank to fit closely into the shotguns chamber and bore and epoxy it in.
    The big advantage to this method over stubbing it is you save not only having to make and attach a new forend stud plus no need to refinishing the whole barrel.
    Everyone I have built is as good of a shooter as a stubbed barrel which I have also done many of and much less work.
    Starting with a raw blank and profiling it threading it and your stub is a lot of lathe time.
    If you like the profile of the topper barrel you only need to drill and tap for a scope base or add rifle sights and cut to length.
    Just another option to consider.

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    Thank you for that option. I have done something similar with bushings and a 9mm UZI barrel.
    I'm planning on a finished weight of no more than 8 # so that will dictate the route I take. Thanks again.

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    Yeah I want to know how this turns out! How dd you decide the 44 wcf would be okay in this topper? You probably know why Iím asking...from another thread...


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    The 44 WCF as loaded by the factory is very low pressure if a 73 Win will hold it. Whatever cartridge below the 30-30 in pressure will work.

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    I'm anxiously awaiting a package from Green Mountain. Any day now I hope. I'm going to use another Topper instead that has straight grip stocks and pretty colors on the frame.

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    Not a great pic.

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    Now THAT"S a barrel!
    Lots of chips to be made. I'm thinking 20" finished will be plenty long for the 44 WCF.

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    Going to take it to the machine shop tomorrow. I'm following Jedman's advice by leaving the stub long enough to keep the for end attachment.

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    Sounds like fun! I have a copy of Ellis Browns book if you need any reference info. My mentor has built a bunch of rifles on shotgun actions. Normally he uses a donor barrel to build a mono block.

    Oh: I also have a Green Mountain 44-40 blank to fit to a Hopkins Allan Saddle Ring falling block. Project number.....um ... who's counting.

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    This will turn out nice, keep us posted!

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    Making progress. I have a .44 pistol blank if someone needs it!

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    Very nice. How long is the "extra" piece and what are the bore/groove dimensions?
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    I'm away from the house right now. It is the 25" Green Mtn 44-40 blank if you want to google it.

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    Lookin Good !

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    5"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    5"

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    .422" x.429" O.D. is 1.06"

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    My weakness would be a 38WCF, even have a bag of brass waiting to be used. I did a 32SWL liner in an over under 410. Friend turned it down to fit in chamber for the head spacing, works great and I can't wait to do more shooting and testing when I get back in the spring. Hope your build goes good. It'll be worth it when done. Hardest part is not rushing thru it... Todd/3leg

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    So true about not rushing it. It helps to have more projects to hop back &forth to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedman View Post
    Before you cut that shotgun barrel off think of this option. I have done over 20 liner in a shotgun barrel to make single shot rifles. Mostly from H&R shotguns and the topper is the best of them as it has the slim barrel profile already.
    You can turn your 44 blank to fit closely into the shotguns chamber and bore and epoxy it in.
    The big advantage to this method over stubbing it is you save not only having to make and attach a new forend stud plus no need to refinishing the whole barrel.
    Everyone I have built is as good of a shooter as a stubbed barrel which I have also done many of and much less work.
    Starting with a raw blank and profiling it threading it and your stub is a lot of lathe time.
    If you like the profile of the topper barrel you only need to drill and tap for a scope base or add rifle sights and cut to length.
    Just another option to consider.

    Jedman
    Jedman- do you prefer solder or epoxy to join the parts together? I am very good at soldering but I'm sure Acraglas would work and be easier.
    Thomas

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