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    I have 2 SDB's, one for large primer and one for small. I load 4 pistol calibers. I load a leisurely 250+ rounds per hour including filling the primer tubes. I could go faster, but I'm a little anal about it. If I were 40-50 years younger and starting over I'd buy a 650. For 1-2 pistol calibers the SDB works great. FWIW I wear a size 13.5 ring and have enough room in the SDB to make it work.
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    I've got both an upgraded DL450...same as the 550 w/o interchangeable tool heads...and an SDB with tooling for both .38/.357 and .45 ACP and, as others have stated, feel that 250-300 rounds per hour is a comfortable production rate. For me, loading of primer tubes isn't an issue 'cause I've got a half-dozen of each size that I pre-load while loafing in front of the idiot box and anything more that 400-500 rounds at a sitting is about the limit of my attention span. I don't find the 450's manual advance that much of a issue and can get about the same rate on it but prefer the SBD's shorter stroke.

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    I have a SDB and for the $250 you can find a used one for, try it. If you dont like it, sell it for the $250 you paid for it. You will love it tho. A case and boolit feeder would be nice but not a big deal to me at all. I load 44, 38, 357 and 9mm on mine. Usually find the caliber conversion kits for $50ish if you look. You can come try mine if you want
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    Thanks for all the help guys.....I've made my decision. SDB it is!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninety Caliber View Post
    Thanks for all the help guys.....I've made my decision. SDB it is!


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    Congrats! I hope you enjoy it and I’m glad you put some thought into the decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninety Caliber View Post
    Thanks for all the help guys.....I've made my decision. SDB it is!


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    You won't regret it, just think hard before you add the Dillon riser mount and bullet tray. I have a friend who did and the way it's configured, it is difficult for me to get a bullet placed on the case in comparison to mine that is just bolted to the bench top.

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    I have both an SDB and a 550B. Started on the 550 and then came across a SDB several years later set up for 45 acp for $75.00 I load all my 45's on it and load everything else on the 550. Both are really good tools, and can produce a lot of ammo.
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    Everything setup, full tube of primers, box of bullets on the left of the press and a box of brass on the right, I can load 100 rounds on one of my SD's in under 9.5 minutes. I generally run a tad slower on my 550.

    My case and bullet fed 650's and 1050's, load 100 rounds in less than 4 minutes and its a lot less work too.

    The SD's were a great value when they came out, at $120-130 nothing was even close to them.

    Today the price they sell for would have me look towards the 550 or 650 but I wouldn't sell the two I have for twice what I paid for them and for their size I can't say I know of any press that could out load them. Then again its only one extra bolt to move an SD vs a 550, 650 or 1050...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninety Caliber View Post
    Thanks for all the help guys.....I've made my decision. SDB it is!

    Good for you and I doubt you will be disappointed.

    As I stated earlier, I have a Lee Pro1000 and It was used when I got it. Now if I'd have come across a SDB for relatively the same price as I paid for the Lee I would also be loading on a blue one. I am not brand dependent but I do pay attention to end results and over-all value. Thing is that people also have a differing definition of Value and do not always use the same criteria.

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    You can't go wrong with a SDB. And you can get some real speed out of it. I've hit the 400 mark more than once. But it does take a little prep. load up a bunch of primer tubes, and set up your workspace so you have plenty of components within reach, and have the minimal amount of movements to make.

    I recently went to an inline fabrication flush quick mount. makes moving/removing and storing the press a snap.

    After using the SDB,550, and 650. IMO the SDB is the easiest of the 3 to operate. and I would posit that it's one of the simplest proressive presses of any make to operate.

    While it's not the cheapest to get multiple calibers for - it's really no more or less expensive than the other presses when you consider the caliber conversion kits they require. Changing out some of the screws, like the set screws for the primer and the powder measure for thumbscrew styles makes changes very quick. Buying the complete tool head with a caliber kit is the way to go IMO.

    I moved to a 650, and initially was going to sell my SDB, but since then have decided to keep it as it's just so good at what it does.

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    I hadn’t honestly looked at the price of the SBD after the deal I got on my 550. Wow was I in for sticker shock! I wish I’d bought several of them back when they were $150!
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    I have a 650 and an SD as well. The SD is set up for 38 spl. I load almost everything else on the 650. Love them both. you can't go wrong.
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    A couple SD fans in here, may be interested in this one.

    After it was concluded on another forum to be impossible, I threw together this case feed for the SD.


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    Mr Morris I don't know if you are impossible or unbelievable! Another fine job in automation! I admire those with imagination.

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    Mr Morris............would you be interested in selling me 1 or 2 case feeders?
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    shut up and take my money!

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    I have a Franklin armory primer tube filler that fills my primer tube in about 15 seconds. Midway sells them and they do a good job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtgrs737 View Post
    I have a Franklin armory primer tube filler that fills my primer tube in about 15 seconds. Midway sells them and they do a good job.
    We've had discussions about them many times. I gave up on trying to make a few of them work. Poking at the primers w/ the tubes takes me less time then trying to make one of them work. People have mixed feelings about the Dillon primer tube filler as well.

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    I have owned multiple SDBs a couple 550s and a couple 650s.

    Filling primer tubes is a moot point. Any press you get you will have to deal with loading primer tubes.
    If your only loading 38sp then the SDB is perfect.
    Purchase a vibraprime and you can load 100 primers in a minute.

    I sold all my SDB to purchase my first 650.
    I had 3 SDB that were dedicated (38sp,40 sw, & 45acp)

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    had SDB and hornady projector. hands down, projector all the way. in fact, I have 2. took me over a million handle pulls to wear out (sort of, just the timing) on the first one. sent it back to hornady and they made it right again, FOR FREE.

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