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Thread: How's Kalifornia Going To Get Aroudn This?

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    How's Kalifornia Going To Get Aroudn This?

    Well here's one for you AR haters. Remember some of the complaints. I it's ackward. I don't like assualt type pistol grips. Well you need to check out FightLite's AR rifles. While you're at it check out their AR pistols!!! Finally someone came up with a new buffer and buffer tube system that gets rid of that AR straightline stock.

    https://fightlite.com/collections/scr-rifles

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzhj...ature=youtu.be

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    That is pretty neat. I think they need a wood butt stock version plus a wood forearm too. Then if it is wood, it would look normal. They could laminate the wood to make it super strong too. It would look quite attractive with a wood butt stock and forearm.

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    If they use Remington shotgun type stocks they might sell a bunch of them as rifles. The trigger groups remind me of ones used on 870,1100, 11/87, 7400, 7600 ect. Wonder how the cheek weld is on the stock with a scope.

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    That sure takes the AR out of the assault rifle category. You should check out their AR pistols. Kind of remind me of the very short barrel Remington and Mossberg shotguns.

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    cute. the questions that come to mind. as I realize they almost made the rifle I want..

    can they give me a bolt action version?

    and can I put uppers made by other people on the lower?

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    I guess I didn't realize there were AR haters here, they are not my thing and I have no desire to own one, but I sure don't hate them or begrudge any one for wanting, or owning one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starmac View Post
    I guess I didn't realize there were AR haters here, they are not my thing and I have no desire to own one, but I sure don't hate them or begrudge any one for wanting, or owning one.
    there ugly, they promote a way of shouldering a rifle that doesn't work with a real rifle or shotgun.
    The lines and curves are all wrong. compared to a model 70, its like seeing your date walk out of the mens room stall.

    But a lot of men who went through Vietnam with one, and saw a lot of needless death still cannot get used to it. And a lot of men who barely avoided being drafted in Vietnam, still see it as a sign of death for them.

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    And in the 25+ months I spent in RVN, MAC-V SOG Advisory Teams (think spooks) and in a Ranger company having one of those "ugly" rifles in my hands saved my life perhaps a hundred times... I never saw any "needless death..." in all that time either. I saw enemy soldiers killed, but the ones I killed kept me and my team alive on numerous occasions. Like all of them.

    you might have seen "your date walk out of the men's room stall" but I never had that problem.

    AR's and old model 70's are both tools, just like your tool chest should have both a tack hammer and a 4lb baby sledge.

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    I like it because it's going to cause the liberal domestic enemies in Kali some consternation.
    I don't find the "black guns" to be very appealing. Last semi auto rifle made that I have a real hankerin' for is an M1A. Don't care for the composite or glass stocks. Give me wood and metal any day.
    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms *shall not be infringed*.

    "The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution."
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    "While the people have property, arms in their hands, and only a spark of noble spirit, the most corrupt Congress must be mad to form any project of tyranny."
    - Rev. Nicholas Collin, Fayetteville Gazette (N.C.), October 12, 1789

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    That has been around for quite awhile and is an answer to the no AR laws in CA.
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    That has been around for quite awhile and is an answer to the no AR laws in CA.
    I think they are also targeting NY.
    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
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    I have a "Non-assalt weapon" Ar in California. Has a non-pistol grip stock. Did not want to bother with a bullet button. There are various ways to comply with California laws without registering your guns.

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    Kewl, I personally do not like the pistol grip on rifles. Those might actually get me to consider an AR, though I would prefer a straight grip to the semi pistol grip.

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    I suspect their latest CA gun control trick is the micro-stamping of a serial number on the firing pin and maybe serialized cartridges. If I remember correctly that goes into effect next year. Thus many gun manufacturers will likely stop sending guns to CA to be sold. I cannot see how micro-stamping will last more than a few shots before the firing pin tip wears it off. Or even having a micro-stamp in the chamber for that matter. At present if the court appeals and lawsuits get finished then they would enforce it. But so far it doesn't look good for the 2A in CA. If CA wins you can bet they will want it on rifles and shotguns too.
    ref http://lawcenter.giffords.org/micros...in-california/

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    whod have thought. eliminate guns by requiring them to feature things that cant be made to work.

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    Like a criminal won't just take a bit of emery cloth to the firing pin (if they even care, if it's a stolen weapon why should they give a dang?)

    One definition of insanity is doing the same exact thing that's never worked, in the hopes that THIS time, it'll work, for certain...

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    If I just read this correctly, the microstamp is supposed to imprint cartridges each time a cartridge is fired? And this is for firearm control? I just don't see the sense...


    It also makes me wonder about reloading cartridges. Pretty soon there would be multiple "imprints" on each cartridge after firing & perhaps even from different firearms, including ones that are fired that don't have such tomfoolery in them. Additionally, what about the "tumbling" process. I do not know how deep "microstamping goes, but it certainly might be "disfigured" perhaps by the tumbling process.

    The next issue that comes to mind is just how safe is this microstamping if the rounds are reloaded...


    All of those came to mind, just from reading the posts. now I am going to read the article before I actually post this post here, to see if that is addressed there. Without yet reading it, I'd bet those ??s are not.

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    No, I do not think they were addressed.

    I am sure glad I do not live in that state... Geeeez...
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    Microstamping = No more reloading.

    New Jersey has an even stupider law on the books. Once a "smart gun" is available then non smart guns can no longer be sold. I hope there are enough brainwashed Americans left in the future.

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    There is more about the microstamping here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microstamping

    But it doesn't stop one from reloading though. Any imprint on the primer gets discarded with the spent primer. After a few shots, the brass case markings would be smudged a lot then, but the cases are likely still useable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earlwb View Post
    There is more about the microstamping here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microstamping

    But it doesn't stop one from reloading though. Any imprint on the primer gets discarded with the spent primer. After a few shots, the brass case markings would be smudged a lot then, but the cases are likely still useable.
    Hey! Thanks for the article! I learned a little more here today!
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