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Thread: How's Kalifornia Going To Get Aroudn This?

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    California also has another bill somewhere in its mechanisms from a few years ago about how they wanted each BULLET to have an imprinted serial number.

    Yeah, every bullet needed to be registered to an individual before use. so when you bought a box of ammo, each box would need its own serial number from the factory, and so forth.

    basically a roundabout way to eliminate casting, reloading, and firearms ownership because the idea isn't feasible.

    try putting digits on the bottom of a .223 lately?

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    It all sounds just great to me. Perhaps then, the last few real Americans left there will leave the loony Blue states/cities and the criminals will be free to rob/loot/rape/kill with no problems.

    All liberals would be dead in short order, the criminals would try to invade the red states and we could cull them out of the gene pool.

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    Serial /id numbering of cases etc is one of the strategies of the worldwide gun prohibition movement.Another strategy is response alarming of gun storage.Designed to load the gun owner with massive cost increases.These things seem reasonable to the general public.Every gun owner leaving California weakens the pro gun forces politically.This is the aim ,one step at a time.

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    Yes but the USA, unlike Australia does not have a parlimentary system in which the mob rules.

    You were disarmed by the mob of liberals, with our checks and balances it would be far more difficult to disarm us as the guy who deported your ancestors found out at Lexington and Concord.

    Your "government" is welcoming the Muslim invaders who are busy setting up a well armed 5th column, infiltrating all your government and military units. When we elect another Obama (as we will) and when (not if) Indonesia decides it needs "lebensraum" you will overrun in a few weeks at most. That's how it works today and always has.
    Ask the folks at Carthage---- oops, can't, they're all dead.

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    What the USA has that Australia doesn't is a little old piece of paper that guarantees our right to keep and bare arms, and there are many in this country working to change that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starmac View Post
    What the USA has that Australia doesn't is a little old piece of paper that guarantees our right to keep and bare arms, and there are many in this country working to change that.
    Only problem is, Kaliforniastan and several other states, plus the federal courts have decided that The Bill of Rights only applies when and where they say it applies. "Shall not be infringed" doesn't really mean that they can't infringe the people's right to keep and bear arms.

    If The Bill of Rights said that the government may not redefine what The Bill of Rights says, the government would declare that "the government" doesn't necessarily mean them and "redefine" does not in this case mean, change the meaning of the words.
    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms *shall not be infringed*.

    "The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution."
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    "While the people have property, arms in their hands, and only a spark of noble spirit, the most corrupt Congress must be mad to form any project of tyranny."
    - Rev. Nicholas Collin, Fayetteville Gazette (N.C.), October 12, 1789

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    Whatever will be ,will be.The progun politicians here are a mix of opportunists and idiots,but they are beginning to gain ground.

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    California has almost unlimited ways to harass gun owners and sportsmen. Son and grandson live there. Have to hunt big game with " Lead free " bullets starting next year. I'm working up loads with lead free bullets so they can continue hunting. It will be interesting how they are going to be able to tell if they are lead free or not ?? Send the game wardens into the field with some sort of a x ray machine ?? California continues to amaze me. So glad I left. 15 miles east of the border makes all the difference.
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    this should be a poll, but here goes. how many of us would actually fight and/or die if someone came to our door to take our guns. I can say, as a person with not a lot to lose, and reloading and shooting being one of the few things that make me happy, after god, my family and my dog, that I WOULD fight and die for my right to bear arms, just as if they were trying to take one of our other rights, such as free speech. life without these rights (all of them) isn't worth living to me.
    really think about it before you answer
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    Someone w/ children will have a tough decision to make. That's all I have to say on the matter.

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    Talk like that plays into the hands of the prohibition movement.......".See,you cant be trusted with guns"........You will be far more effective in making activity impossible for the antgun politicians.Disrupt all public activity of these guys.......same way as the greens do now with anyone that disagrees with them.Disrupt their private lives,without making illegal threats,disrupt their fundraising,disrupt their business activities.Make false allegations against them,mud sticks.Dedicate your life to this activity,not to confronting cops following orders.Its a whole lot harder than wild talk.

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    Now I have a radical suggestion for you,which i put to the local association some years ago,and was howled down.............................................. ...Start your own anti-gun movements,ask for public funding ,solicit donations,make outrageous statements,be on telly as much as possible............you divide the support and financial backing of the true antis..And you know what they are planning,who their backers are..........And ,best of all,you live well off donations to the antigun movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahoma Rebel View Post
    this should be a poll, but here goes. how many of us would actually fight and/or die if someone came to our door to take our guns. I can say, as a person with not a lot to lose, and reloading and shooting being one of the few things that make me happy, after god, my family and my dog, that I WOULD fight and die for my right to bear arms, just as if they were trying to take one of our other rights, such as free speech. life without these rights (all of them) isn't worth living to me.
    really think about it before you answer
    I was gonna skip a reply to your "poll" type question. I am betting many will, but I will try to let ya know the mindset of what I and I will bet many others might say...

    Since the internet is not the place for me to answer that sort of question, I must decline to answer it.

    Maybe you could consider something like that for some folks as, "OpSec", If ya know what I mean.


    And I am still glad that me & mine are not living in Calif.. I think it is a mess...
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    Quote Originally Posted by john.k View Post
    Now I have a radical suggestion for you,which i put to the local association some years ago,and was howled down.............................................. ...Start your own anti-gun movements,ask for public funding ,solicit donations,make outrageous statements,be on telly as much as possible............you divide the support and financial backing of the true antis..And you know what they are planning,who their backers are..........And ,best of all,you live well off donations to the antigun movement.
    I have to say that is quite humorous to me... And heck, it might even work, if done well...
    LOL
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    Here s something for you to ponder........a great many of these "movements" are controlled and organized by qualified legal people.It doesnt matter to them what the cause is,provided it has potential for fundraising.Not usually started by the legals,but taken over by them.Did you know "Greenpeace" was started by two lawyers,a few years after was a multimillion dollar business,the lawyers then struggled through the courts for sole controll in multi million series of lawsuits that dragged on for years.

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    Ok Rebel. I will agree life without rights, is not really life. Would I fight and die if they came for my guns, hmm I do not have an absolute answer. I can say with absolute certainty that I will die owning guns. Does the phrase, don't put all your eggs in one basket mean anything to you. No one person, including my wife knows exactly what or how many I own, and if they knocked down the door today, they would not find everything.

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    Microstamping has been a requirement (read excuse to ban handguns) in Kommiefornistan for several years now. We have what the Libtard Legistators call a "handgun safety roster". Any new gun must have a mag disconnect, LCI and a proven functional microstamping on the firing pin.

    "Oh, you can't make a gun with a functional microstamp on the firing pin? Too bad, so sad. Guess it won't be allowed on the roster"

    What defines a "new gun"? Not only do new models of guns count as "new guns, but any upgraded existing model is defined as a "new gun" which means it falls off the roster. Changing a machined piece into MIM or stamped piece defines it as a "new gun" therefore under the rules of "safety requirements".

    Who's exempt? LEO's as a "thank you" for endorsing this stuff. They are allowed to privately buy these guns and turn around and sell them for whatever they choose (read 4 figure prices for G43's, PPQ's and VP9's) because once the guns are in the state, they can be resold just like any other handgun.

    Think this can't happen elsewhere? Think about suppressors, bump stocks, and a "national conversation" about "evil looking military assault rifles".

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    I believ the NRA and CR&PA convinced a bunch of judges that micro stamping still doesn't work and it is not a requirement in CA. Micro stamping doesn't effect reloading. Only the primer would be stamped, if it worked. Primers are replaced when reloading. Our former AG, now our Jr Senator declared that it must be possible since it had been on the books for a few years. While our legislator and elected executive officials has be brains of earthworms some of our judges are intelligent sensible people. I will get worse in 2019 if Lt.Gavin Newsom gets elected Governor.

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    most of these attempts to prohibit guns come from the UN.Its easy to pretend that guns are responsible for the chaos in half the third world,and that being able to trace back to source makes bans possible.The gun controll activists then transfer all this to first world countries,demanding worldwide gun bans.This makes sense to a whole lot of people when they are faced with a million refugees on their doorstep.Sign a treaty with the UN to accept all these 'protocols' into your national law,and you have defacto gun controll.This is what Obama was moving towards.And will continue with the next democrat regime.

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    I like the idea of a wood stock on them .

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