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    Lots of people say they don't like the 9mm for defense and I don't understand why. With modern ammunition, it is at least as effective as the 38 Special which has been pretty much a standard for decades.
    I guess it matters what you are defending against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rondog View Post
    Kinda seems to me like buying a new car with manual crank windows and no power locks.
    Wish I could still buy them like this. It's one of the reasons the only "fun" cars I have left are old ones. Engines are running big turbos w/ stand alone engine management. But manual everything in the interior is to my liking. Sometimes simple is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragon813gt View Post
    Wish I could still buy them like this. It's one of the reasons the only "fun" cars I have left are old ones. Engines are running big turbos w/ stand alone engine management. But manual everything in the interior is to my liking. Sometimes simple is better.
    I wish vehicles still came with cigarette lighters and ash trays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tazman View Post
    Lots of people say they don't like the 9mm for defense and I don't understand why. With modern ammunition, it is at least as effective as the 38 Special which has been pretty much a standard for decades.
    I guess it matters what you are defending against.
    Isn't that the truth. The cartridge has been around longer than the 45acp and has performed longer in Military and Police handgun applications than any other cartridge. Fortunately for those who really need the cartridge the beat goes on.

    Take Care

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    Growing old is hard work...The mind says "yes" but the body says, "What the hell are you thinking".

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    Quote Originally Posted by robertbank View Post
    Isn't that the truth. The cartridge has been around longer than the 45acp and has performed longer in Military and Police handgun applications than any other cartridge. Fortunately for those who really need the cartridge the beat goes on.

    Take Care

    Bob
    Don't know about that Robert, they are just about neck to neck. Browning's first 45 acp was on 1902 Colt parts. It was a proto-type. That evolved into the 1905 which was a legitimate productioin item in 45 acp. The 9x19 came about in 1902 also. Browning had the 38 Auto (basically 9mm caliber) before the 9x19, but yes I know there were many 9mm's before that even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robertbank View Post
    I have to admit my keyboard get dunked on that comment. Please give a warning when I have coffee in my mouth. :>) Take Care Bob
    I'm glad my snide comment had the desired result
    The ENEMY is listening.
    HE wants to know what YOU know.
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