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Thread: Subsonic loads for 222 Rem/ 223 Remington

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    Subsonic loads for 222 Rem/ 223 Remington

    I have perfected casting NOE 37 grain Plain Base bullets.
    I powder coat these bullets and I want to use them in subsonic loads in 22 Hornet, 222, and 223 Remington.
    It seems that accuracy falls off at about 1400 fps. In the 22 hornet using a load of Dupont Bulk powder (Obsolete, powder is likely 70 years old) I get 1020 fps and incredible accuracy.
    Any one have any starting points for the 37 grain NOE PB bullet in 222 or 223?

    I am looking to duplicate subsonic 22 long rifle velocities.
    Pointers to reloading manuals with subsonic loads would be appreciated.
    Go now and pour yourself a hot one...

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    I am looking to duplicate subsonic 22 long rifle velocities.

    Start off with your 22 Hornet load.

    If you have Bullseye then try 2 gr +/-
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    Here is a subsonic for you for your 22 cf s:
    Prime the case, and hand seat 22 cal pellets in mouth of case.
    Very Subsonic plinking at short range
    Accurate in my 222 Marlin Sako.
    beltfed/arnie

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    I have used 1.5 grains of 700x in a 223 with a 55 grain PC'ed Bator in a handi. It does not appear to be position sensitive. It just penetrates a 2x4 and stops on the other side. 700X is just a step slower than BE.
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    Would Trail Boss not fit this application?
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    Quote Originally Posted by farmerjim View Post
    I have used 1.5 grains of 700x in a 223 with a 55 grain PC'ed Bator in a handi. It does not appear to be position sensitive. It just penetrates a 2x4 and stops on the other side. 700X is just a step slower than BE.
    Thank you, exactly what I am looking for
    Go now and pour yourself a hot one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Gibson View Post
    I am looking to duplicate subsonic 22 long rifle velocities.

    Start off with your 22 Hornet load.

    If you have Bullseye then try 2 gr +/-
    Thank you! I have a can of Bullesye, I will do that
    Go now and pour yourself a hot one...

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