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Thread: Trumpeter swan A early End to our morning Duck Hunting

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    Trumpeter swan A early End to our morning Duck Hunting

    Me and 3 other guys planned to hunt a 25 yard wide and 200 yard long pothole in the marsh next to the Creek this morning
    I figured the decoys in the pothole would get the Mallards , Black Ducks and Pintails ducks to decoy and we could pass shoot the wood ducks as they flew past
    It was opening day of Big duck and Goose season

    2 of us told the other 2 and the 3 guy agreed that there were NO White Geese in Ohio , the HUGE White birds were Trumpeter swans

    I was trying out some cast Bismuth / tin shot that I had made

    Well about 8:30 a flock of Swans came up the creek
    3 of us were watching them
    Guy #4 ignored what we had told him and shot one

    One of the hunters on the other side of the creek called the police and we called the Game Warden
    As we had told him to not shoot the White Birds and we new the guys on the other side were calling the police , so we felt it right to call ourselves

    The police got there first , then the Ohio Game Warden and finally a Federal Game Warden

    That mess up ended our hunt , as it took almost a hour to get the Police and Wardens to leave

    We were told that will be a trip to the Federal Courthouse in Toledo , $2500 fine , Lawyer fees , Court cost ....AND 3 years loss of his hunting license

    And I am sure the hunt club will kick him out ( I will ask for it myself )

    Oh BTW the cast Bismuth shot worked great
    Any miss was MY Fault , not the guns or the shot LOL

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    there is no mistaking a trumpeter swan for a goose, especially a small snow goose. he deserves whatever fine he gets!

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    Sheeesh.. What was he thinkin'? I guess he wasn't thinking, but I am sure curious as to why take the shot knowing it wasn't a legal shoot... Particularly after you folks already discussed it & he was aware that it wasn't a duck when he shot. Even if he did not know the difference between geese & swans, if he couldn't ID the target, he shouldn't have shot...

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    Dual violations with migratory birds. One from the state and one from federal. Your friend isn't done yet.
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    Good lesson for him to learn in impulse control. Good on you guys for reporting.
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    This story describes perfectly why I'm super peculiar about who I hunt with, sorry to hear about your ruined hunt.

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    Sounds like justice might have been served if you'd shot the moron, and cut him up for FISH bait, or fed HIM to the remaining trumpeter swans.
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    Expensive mistake. This is one reason I have always been apprehensive about taking up waterfowl hunting. It's easy to shoot the wrong thing and then it's literally a federal case.

    That said, I deer hunt close to a big lagoon on a lake that has all kinds of waterfowl and hunters. I had several flights of Canada geese fly over me while I was out that were in shotgun range and would have fallen over land if hit. I'm not going to invest in a boat and decoys and such, but if I could hide and shoot where they'd fall where I could get them, I think I could get a few. Gotta look into it a bit more, but the season is next month and I'm considering doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richhodg66 View Post
    Expensive mistake. This is one reason I have always been apprehensive about taking up waterfowl hunting. It's easy to shoot the wrong thing and then it's literally a federal case.

    That said, I deer hunt close to a big lagoon on a lake that has all kinds of waterfowl and hunters. I had several flights of Canada geese fly over me while I was out that were in shotgun range and would have fallen over land if hit. I'm not going to invest in a boat and decoys and such, but if I could hide and shoot where they'd fall where I could get them, I think I could get a few. Gotta look into it a bit more, but the season is next month and I'm considering doing it.

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    Do the swans taste as good as whooping crane?
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    Quote Originally Posted by farmerjim View Post
    Do the swans taste as good as whooping crane?
    Nahh... More like Loon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by farmerjim View Post
    Do the swans taste as good as whooping crane?
    Not sure
    Also I am to CHEAP to even think about finding out
    As I have a moral problem shooting a Swan
    As they are DUMB ... shake a coffee can 1/2 full of corn and they swim up to you to beg for corn
    Maybe we need to start shooting the people that drive up to the marsh and feed them to get better pictures

    Oh My Great Grandfather used to tell me about hunting them YEARS back to sell
    He said he paid more than 1 payment for the Farm Loan from the cash he got hunting them
    Wonder why there not any more in Ohio ?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnch View Post
    Not sure
    Also I am to CHEAP to even think about finding out
    As I have a moral problem shooting a Swan
    As they are DUMB ... shake a coffee can 1/2 full of corn and they swim up to you to beg for corn
    Maybe we need to start shooting the people that drive up to the marsh and feed them to get better pictures

    Oh My Great Grandfather used to tell me about hunting them YEARS back to sell
    He said he paid more than 1 payment for the Farm Loan from the cash he got hunting them
    Wonder why there not any more in Ohio ?????

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    Mallard ducks do that in the London parks, but they are just wild duck that drop in for part of their year, and make a fine, professional job of being wild duck where they know the rules are different. I see how they could go wrong on howl far humans will comply with the law, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballistics in Scotland View Post
    Mallard ducks do that in the London parks, but they are just wild duck that drop in for part of their year, and make a fine, professional job of being wild duck where they know the rules are different. I see how they could go wrong on howl far humans will comply with the law, though.
    They do not always follow the rules.
    We have a problem with folks feeding the wild mallards here in town, in the river. Many of these do not migrate south when the rest leave, and then come freeze up they have to be fed or die a slow death. It is a bigger problem than you would normally think, if you are not looking at it year after year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmerjim View Post
    Do the swans taste as good as whooping crane?
    more like spotted owl
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    whooping crane is called roast beef here.

    we can't shoot swans though, we just raise them so the people to the south of us can shoot them.
    I have had swan before it is [shrug] like goose.
    it was a draw tag in Utah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lefty o View Post
    there is no mistaking a trumpeter swan for a goose, especially a small snow goose. he deserves whatever fine he gets!
    I bet it would suprise you to no end, how many people shoot a mule deer, thinking they are filling an elk tag every year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starmac View Post
    I bet it would suprise you to no end, how many people shoot a mule deer, thinking they are filling an elk tag every year.
    i have no doubt plenty do. heck people shoot horses and cows hunting white tails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labradigger1 View Post
    Dual violations with migratory birds. One from the state and one from federal. Your friend isn't done yet.
    Depends. Usually you get one or the other. If the Federal guy is a real prick he can actually make you go to a Federal court several states away. I know a guy that had that happen to him. He was being a jerk and said he would fight the ticket. Well he did and had to show up in court in Denver from here near me in Iowa.

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