Recently, I got a hankerin' to get out my S&W model 10 Victory revolver that is chambered for the 38 S&W, and wanted to see what it would take to reload this caliber properly. In the past I have use 38 Special bullets with moderate success, but this time I really want to do it right. So, first things first--get out the pin gauge set, and get accurate measurements of the chambers and chamber throats, with a comparison to a 1950's vintage S&W model 10 38 Special. I found the following:
38 S&W throats-- .363; chamber diameter-- .389
38 Special throats-- .358; chamber diameter-- .381
I also measured the barrel diameters; no, I didn't slug them, but my dial caliper indicated a relative difference of .004-.005 between the two. The 38 Special checked in at around .357 or so, and the 38 S&W checked in at around .361 or thereabouts.
It should be clear from these measurements, these two are NOT in the same league when it comes to reloading. Each requires its own components if optimal results are to be achieved. I may even have to make a custom sizing die; my Lee 380 Auto die that came as a sizer for 38 S&W will probably squeeze the brass down too much. Also, the expander plug only expands to around .356, 3/4 of its depth into the case. This just isn't nearly enough; I see that casting and sizing custom bullets at .363 would be a waste of effort if I try and stuff them into these undersized cases. They will simply be swaged down, and I'll be right back where I started.
I look forward to getting the GB 38/200 Webley mold for casting for this fine old revolver. At first, I thought that the specified diameter of .362 was a bit overkill, but after these measurements I see that I was in error. If anything, it may not be quite generous enough--a slug of at least .362 or .363 will be needed to make this gun shoot up to its potential. I was also surprised at the barrel diameter; I had always been led to believe that these Victory 38 S&W's were simply 38 Specials with a different cylinder. This is obviously wrong, these guns were clearly built for 38 S&W ammo from the start.
I'd be really interested in hearing from some of you other guys about this caliber. Are these barrel/chamber dimensions typical? How about some of you Webley guys? What does it take to make these revolvers shoot up to their potential? Seems like a lot of trouble, but to me that's half the fun!
lathesmith