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    Question on the 9mm , for the modern day , same function, what about using 357max brass? Is the length in the "close" realm? Thinking a Yi ldiz folder extra barrel . You've got me interested and the little Yildiz is 3.3 lbs and nicely finished.
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    A .410 is the ideal Garden Gun with the exception of the muzzle report.
    The smaller calibers are a lot quieter and more friendly for small gardens in populated areas.

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    Question.
    Using the push rods as a barrel or barrel liner for a smooth bore is a great idea.
    But what about the length.
    They are not rifled so they can't work for a pistol.
    And they would have to be sectioned together to make them long enough to make a Legal shotgun barrel of 18"

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGS View Post
    A .410 is the ideal Garden Gun with the exception of the muzzle report.
    The smaller calibers are a lot quieter and more friendly for small gardens in populated areas.
    The .44 Game Getter Shot loads assembled in the Starline 5 in 1 blank cases work fine in a standard .410 and are quieter.

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    So are the rounds I make out of the .303 Brits.
    A friend use to like them in his Judge revolver with Buckshot or slugs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minuteshaver View Post
    Im SLIGHTLY befuddled..... hasn't anyone ever realized that the popular idea of using car radio antennas for the barrel and chamber of a 22 rimfire based zip gun,,,,, means that if you took out your "why did I buy this crappy single shot rimfire for 50$ because it was on sale" gun, and reamed the barrel out just enough to slide steel tubing of an equivalent thickness and diameter, youd be able to make your own smooth bore 22lr?
    I used to make those "zip guns" when I was a kid. I don't think they make car antennas like that anymore.

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    They dont make Car radio antenas like that any more.
    But the junk yards are probably full of them.
    And who else would buy a Used Rusted Radio antena.
    I bet they would give them away.

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    1/2 " hydraulic tubing for a liner and 38 spl / 357 brass makes a great .360 shot gun barrel.

    hey, watch where ya point that thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by texasnative46 View Post
    BigEyeBob,

    Most likely, your friend's 9mm RF is a Model 36. - I've never even heard of a 6mm.

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    next timeI talk to himill get somemore details .6mm was not known to me either or the 9mm in fact.Its all new to me.

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    Mine is a .50 smoothbore barrel stuck on a low price 2nd hand flintlock.
    From birds to bunnies to bambis it'll fill the bill.

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    It would seem to me that a .38 special would be about the ideal size. I have no experience with them at all. Is brass easy and cheap to get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGS View Post
    They dont make Car radio antenas like that any more.
    But the junk yards are probably full of them.
    And who else would buy a Used Rusted Radio antena.
    I bet they would give them away.
    I made them 1963 to 1965. As I recall car antenna's weren't even made from steel. I believe they were chrome plated brass. I never measured the diameter of the inside but a 22 short was quite sloppy but would chamber on the rim. Obviously they weren't very powerful as they lost so much pressure due to the sloppy fit. But I never had one blow up on me. I wouldn't dare try a 22 long rifle in one though. Even at that young age I wasn't too stupid.

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    My "Garden Gun" is a Belgian mfg SxS hammer gun chambered for .44-40 shotshells. It's very lightweight and a handy little gun. The original factory shotshells are easily duplicated these days using .44-40 cases with Speer .44 calibre plastic shotshell capsules. Only effective at short ranges, but tons of fun.









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    Reverend Al,

    NIFTY little smoothbore. = What does it weigh??

    yours, tex

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    That's one sweet garden gun Reverend Al. Me like! I love to see a piece of history still being put to use.
    On another note I got around to fire forming a 1.75" case. 6 grains of Unique and some corn meal did the trick.Click image for larger version. 

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ID:	205290It is the perfect length to hold 150 grains of #9 shot. I still need to pattern it.
    I will let you know how that goes. I am open to opinions on what would be a respectable distance for something this small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traffer View Post
    I used to make those "zip guns" when I was a kid. I don't think they make car antennas like that anymore.
    My Uncle Jerry told me when he was a kid they would make .22 zip guns with an antennae, a paper clip and a couple rubber bands all bound together with packing tape.
    You can miss fast & you can miss a lot, but only hits count.

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    I'd have to dig it out and weight it, but likely only about 4 to 4 1/2 pounds. Very handy little gun for a SXS!

    Quote Originally Posted by texasnative46 View Post
    Reverend Al,

    NIFTY little smoothbore. = What does it weigh??

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    Reverend Al,

    I'm envious. NIFTY little DB. = I've looked for a long time for a .410 or 11mm SxS double that was originally chambered in the 1.75, 2 or even for the 2.5 inch brass cased shells.
    (I once saw/held an about 3.5 pound 11.5mm Austrian-made circa 1890 hammer gun in 1 7/8" chambering at Waffen Bennewitz in K-town, BRD but didn't have the DM to buy it. = VERY ORNATE little jewel it was.)

    yours, tex

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    Seeing this picture is what got me interested in garden guns:
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