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Thread: VS: 120v/220V PID setup - FEB 2021 update

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    VS: 120v/220V PID setup - FEB 2021 update

    I sell two different setups.

    Setup #1 - $125 shipped
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    This is a very compact setup.
    Designed to control 1 device.
    Basically it is horizontal.

    Setup #2 - $165 shipped



    This is designed for to control multiple device but not at the same time. You can only control 1 item at a time. This unit has a plug so you can leave your probe in one device and have another probe in another.

    It will take the standard thermocouple with plug that Auber sells.
    It will have a mounted outlet for thermocouple connection.
    It will come with 2 4 inch thermocouples with plugs.
    This is a special order unit and will take additional time to build.

    Now the specs on the units

    - Multi voltage - They are designed to be worldwide. They ship setup with US 120v connectors. If you want to run something other then 120v then you cut the plugs and install the correct ones.
    - 15 amp rated - They have a 25 amp SSR but the wiring is limited to 15 amps as most standard 120v outlets are rated for 15 amps
    - 600c rated - The probes unless specified differently are rated to 600C (1100F)
    - 4 inch probe length - The standard length is 4 inches. Longer lengths are available but will have to be special ordered and cost more.
    - Standard no BS warranty - In the event that you have a issue, please contact me. Failures do happen rarely but I have always taken care of the issue. Please be reasonable and don't expect me to warranty a item that is a couple years old or that has been mistreated. No, I will not replace the PID controller because you spilled hot lead on it. Yes that has been asked.

    This post was updated on 1/24/2020.

    The preferred payment method is PayPal.
    Please DO NOT USE Friends and Family. I will pay the fee. It is easier for me to track and ship the orders this way.
    Also please verify your PP address is correct as I only ship to the address provided by PayPal.



    Instructions- http://goo.gl/uOUDyX

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    VS: 120v/220V PID setup - FEB 2021 update

    Stock and lead times 2/25/2021


    Type 1 - 3 in stock - 1 should be ready in 5 days -
    Type 2 - 1 in stock - 1 should be ready in 5 days -

    Please keep in mind that PayPal orders take priority over mail in payments.
    Generally speaking by the time your payment arrives additional units have been made.
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    There will be a delays as I am waiting on parts.
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    You fellas that are on the fence about buying one of these it will be the best money you ever spent. I have one on my oven and I would move it to my casting pot so I bought another one so not to have to move it back and forth. You will cast better and more accurate bullets with one of these units because the temp is kept constant. I am not affiliated with Hatch or doing this for gain. Just telling it like it is.
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    Updated second post with picture of back of the unit


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    Just received mine today and can say it's very well made. Look forward to using it soon.

    Thanks Hatch for a product well made.

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    Where can I find more information on this?

    Looks like what I might need.
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    So, if I'm understanding this correctly one puts the temperature probe into the pot, plugs the pot into little black box and the black box into the power outlet and the box controls the pot temperature?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunross View Post
    So, if I'm understanding this correctly one puts the temperature probe into the pot, plugs the pot into little black box and the black box into the power outlet and the box controls the pot temperature?
    Yeah. Pretty much


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    Waiting on the USPS.
    Was suppose to arrive e today with some parts but for the old in transit arriving late crap


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    Quote Originally Posted by HATCH View Post
    Yeah. Pretty much
    Just out of curiosity, and at risk of asking a question that might be like asking you to nail Jello to a wall... do you have any thoughts on optimal position for the thermocouple sensor inside bottom pour pots? Logic would suggest (or at least I think) that the optimal position would be beside the spout orifice, where the PID is obtaining temperature information from the alloy right before it exists the pot to fill the mould.

    Or is this just over complicating setup and use?

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    Your just overthinking this.

    I am sure that there are hot spots in every furnace. Basically closest to the heating elements.
    The optimal placement of the probe is somewhere that keeps it from touching the sides or the bottom yet still keeps the last inch of the probe in the melt.

    Generally speaking the melted lead is the same temp throughout.
    Yes I suppose that if you had a swimming pool size furnace you could have thermals (basically layers) in which the temp was different but if you place the tip of the probe within the the last 1/4 inch of the melt then it shouldn’t matter how big the pot is as that layer should be all the same temp.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunross View Post
    So, if I'm understanding this correctly one puts the temperature probe into the pot, plugs the pot into little black box and the black box into the power outlet and the box controls the pot temperature?
    You also must turn the temp. control on the pot to its highest setting.

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    I used a piece of plumbers strap (holey metal strip) to offset the probe about a half inch from the back of the pot and use the support post nut to attach it to the the Seaco pot I use. You can bend the strap to adjust the height or how far it sets from the side.
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    PID arrived this morning (23 JAN 21) ,no problems with shipping. Just in the process of changing the plugs(NZ) over. Thanks for everything.

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    Hatch,

    Do you have a link for the P.I.D. instructions? It's probably out there but at this age I'd rather just ask. Yup, I'm lazy too.

    Thanks,

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    If you are talking about the uTube video try this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KsO...ature=youtu.be

    I would like to know how to download to burn to DVD or USB so I always have it.

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    That works, was interested in the written information on the P.I.D. but I can get by with the video which I had no idea existed. The one I built had a different P.I.D. and I can't find that either. Thanks.

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    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...=1#post4371361


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    Thanks again Hatch, it's appreciated.

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