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Thread: Loading .38 S&W ballon head brass?? And cut down SPL?

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    Boolit Mold
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    Loading .38 S&W ballon head brass?? And cut down SPL?

    I am planning on loading some .361 145 rn on top of a mouse fart quantity of TB for an old Iver Johnson Top Break (1922 mfg gen 3 for smokeless).

    1) Some of my random brass collection is balloon head.

    Given that these are going to be light loads that I'm not going to Camp Perry with or making USPSA major with, any trouble with balloon head other than volume / density variations vs non balloon head?

    2) Some of my Brass is cut down .38 military cases (no caliber headstamp). I know that these split in hotter loads but again, with mouse fart loads, will they fire form?

    3) yes, I know Starline is available and even on sale right now at Midway. I ordered
    some, just trying to make good use of what else I have.

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    I've used both those kinds of brass in my H&R w/o any problems. I use a minuscule load of BE.
    Larry Gibson

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    I save the balloon 38 S&W brass for blank loads. Either fill the case with 700X or black powder. No enlarging of the flash hole needed, even with the smokeless 700X, it provides enough pressure with a thick card wad that the primer is not set back. But these are shot on solid frame Colts.

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    i use cut down 38 special brass with 2 grains of red dot and 148gr rd nose as cast @.358 dia

    2nd model IJ black powder gun

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
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