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Thread: 230gr H&G 34 - good for colt revolver, rifle and auto?

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    230gr H&G 34 - good for colt revolver, rifle and auto?

    Looking for a mold for a s&w colt revolver and a 45 colt Henry rifle.

    Would a H&G 34 be a good mold for both of these and also sized for 45 auto handguns too?

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    The H&G #34 is an excellent choice for the 45 acp / 45 auto . It replicates the USGI ball profile.

    For 45 Colt, that will depend on the revolver, the #34 is listed as .452 and some 45 Colts are .454 are larger. The revolver's throat and barrel dimensions will determine this.

    The Henry rifle in 45 colt...I would not use it. I like a boolit with a flat meplate on the nose and a crimping groove that I can roll crimp into. With lever guns the primers sit on the boolit nose below it. A flat spot just sounds a whole lot safer than a round nose on that primer considering the magazine spring pressure plus the recoil when firing . I do not want a magazine full of rounds going off on the first shot.

    I would get two moulds, The H&G #34 for 45 acp and a proper designed 45 Colt mould, reloading will be a whole lot simpler.

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    Thanks for the post.

    I have a good 200gr iron swc mold for 45acp already. It's heavy but a great mold. Think it's an old Lyman 452460. The flat point for colt bullets makes sense. It didn't even occur to me bout the points setting off the primers. I def want a 454 mold for
    The safe side. Allows me to size down.

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    +1 on suitability for pistol & revolver but not for rifles with tubular magazines.

    You might look at the Lee 230gr. Truncated Cone. It has a large meplat that won't act like a firing pin on a primer in front of it. It has a rounded shoulder, which is unlikely to cause feeding problems in either an automatic pistol or carbine. It has a ballistic coefficient somewhat inferior to that of a Lee 230-2R LRN, but better than the 200gr RNFP, and much better than the 200gr. LSWC. BCs usually don't mean much at defensive pistol ranges, but for hunting or long-range handgunning, it can make a diff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosh75287 View Post
    You might look at the Lee 230gr. Truncated Cone. It has a large meplat that won't act like a firing pin on a primer in front of it. It has a rounded shoulder, which is unlikely to cause feeding problems in either an automatic pistol or carbine. It has a ballistic coefficient somewhat inferior to that of a Lee 230-2R LRN, but better than the 200gr RNFP, and much better than the 200gr. LSWC. BCs usually don't mean much at defensive pistol ranges, but for hunting or long-range handgunning, it can make a diff.
    That's what I went with, given like advice here, for an ACP do it, almost, all and an LC useful, if not as comprehensively so as for the ACP, mold.
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    This is what I use in S&W and Ruger 45 revolvers and Rossi lever in 45 Colt. I use the plain base version but also have an older Lyman single holer with gas check I use for Ruger only loads.
    http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product...oducts_id=3511

    EDIT: can't vouch for it in a Henry but it flows easily in my Rossi

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    How would this 230gr Keith mold do? $80 and a 5 cavort is pretty nice.

    http://arsenalmolds.com/products?pro...it=99999999999

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    I've got this in a 6 cav H&G mold from before WW2. I LOVE IT...! I've used it since I started IPSC back in the early 1980s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by psychbiker View Post
    Thanks for the post.

    I have a good 200gr iron swc mold for 45acp already. It's heavy but a great mold. Think it's an old Lyman 452460. The flat point for colt bullets makes sense. It didn't even occur to me bout the points setting off the primers. I def want a 454 mold for
    The safe side. Allows me to size down.
    The 452460 saw me through 2 decades of NRA Bullseye shooting. I even won a first place trophy in a G.I. service pistol match with it ( my only first place trophy)....great boolit .
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwpercle View Post
    The 452460 saw me through 2 decades of NRA Bullseye shooting. I even won a first place trophy in a G.I. service pistol match with it ( my only first place trophy)....great boolit .
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    I've discovered over the years just about any 185-200gr cast bullet on top of 4.0-4.5 grs of Bullseye gives me the best shot to shot accuracy in any handgun of any caliber I've hand loaded for.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check