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Thread: IMR red any experience for cast boolits

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    IMR red any experience for cast boolits

    Just at a local gun show. Picked up 2lbs of the new IMR red. The dealer said it is equivalent to Red dot. Just curious if any one has used it. I will be using it in the normal milsurp lower velocity cast boolits.
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    I just opened an eight pounder of RD. This will last me a long time. I'm curious to hear how the IMR Red compares.....
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    it doesn't have the same volume to weight measurement.
    the burn rate is close enough to use red-dot data just like promo.

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    There is some handgun data(38 special and 45ACP) on the Hodgdon site. You may be able to use that as a comparison.

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    Now I am curious as how it compares to the real stuff, so if I have time after my son's soccer game, I will try some of each.

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    I shot some 30-06 at 200 yards with a star-gage 1903 w-receiver sights. All charges were weighed , not measured, and IMR RED is noticeably denser than Red Dot. Another factor to consider, the Red Dot is probably 25years old, so I should by a new sample for a proper test.

    Red Dot, 12grs. , Saeco 315 bullet @ 176 grs., ten shots with nine measuring 4.75 in.

    IMR RED, 12grs., same bullet, ten shots, with nine measuring 3.35 in., good enough to clean a MR-52 target. The center of this group was 2inches higher than the Red Dot target, with the same sight setting, so IMR RED's velocity must be a bit higher with the same charge.

    I guess you can say I'm impressed with this powder, I think it's my new favorite load for this rifle.

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    Thanks GGuy and all that chimed in. I can't wait to try some of the new red. The left over red dot I will use to do a similar test as you did and post my results. 13gr is my go to light load for 7.62x54r and 4.5 to 7gr in 303.
    Thanks again!!!!
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    I just tried to measure 3 gr of it into light 38 spl loads and it didn't go through my RCBS measure very well. It might have gone through a lil dandy, but I don't have one of those and I wasn't loading on my Dillon 650 where it would have likely measured fine in the Dillon xtra small measure. The powder charge would hang up the dropper when I went to charge it.. couldn't get under about 4 grains... which was too much for the load I wanted to develop..

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    I finally got to testing some IMR red. It has a different density, but I have been using lee measures so far. I tried some cat sneeze loads in 303, 3 to 4.5 gr in two different rifles. So far I have found its a great alternative to red dot. No difference in accuracy or clean up. Gonna try 10 and 13 gr soon.
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    G-G if you impact was higher, then it is possible that the velocity was actually lower.

    Counter intuitive I know, but likely the cause.

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    Loaded some in the 45 colt and the brother in law said they shot to the same point of aim as those loaded with red dot.

    Thing is i used 3 grains less red.

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    I can't wait to try some myself, cause my supply of RD is drying up.

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    Got out the other week. After looking at my notes I decided to try a good previous Red dot load with imr red in 303.
    6.5, 7.0 and 7.5gr with 316202 sized to .314 in the same rifle, same boolits from the same batch.
    Using ten rounds of each load. Out of the ten rounds I got a nice 1.5 to 2 inch groups with 8 of the ten shots, then the 2 ubiquitous fliers. I am quite impressed with the results so far. It don't like being metered that's for sure, charges must be weighed.
    Conclusion, imr red is a bit better and good fun!!!
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