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    Whether man made climate change is a fact or not, Christians should be good stewards of the Earth. What this means for each individual and their family is between them and God.

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    I've found most Global Warming claims lack credibility. most especially the claims made after every disaster no matter what it is being somehow connected to climate change.
    Theres been no actual climate change anywhere on the planet. Arrid regions remain arid and moist regions remain moist with minor variations that don't last all that long and run in well recognized cycles.

    The real harm in claiming Global Warming and/or Climate Change are in natural and responsible for every weather extreme is that a generation of so called climate scientists have been brain washed into ignoring the many other factors. The Atlantic Multidecadal oscillation for example easily explains why some Hurricane seasons are more intense than others. Historical accounts have proven that far more powerful storms struck what is now the USA in the early 18th century and 17th century.
    The Little Ice Age continued to affect weather extremes well into the 1880's, and Glaciers in the US only began to slow down and lose mass in 1875.

    Things got warmer after 1880 because they were supposed to get warmer. We certainly don't need to return to a pre industrial type era with its years without summer and the Thames frozen solid.

    The world is only recovering from a very long cold spell, and crop yields are up while the Sahel region of Africa once more has enough water to sustain its inhabitants. Africa goes through thirty year long drought cycles with 10 year cycles in between.
    If the world had not recovered beyond the 1960's most third world populations would have starved to death by now. The more advanced nations could not have grown enough food to help them along.

    The major problems of droughts here and abroad are due entirely to over used of water from the underground aquifers. Up to 1/3 of sea level increase in the last century is due to these water reserves being allowed to drain back into the oceans carrying the filth of our cities and fertilizers that promote algae blooms and dead zones like that in the Gulf of Mexico.

    If they used the resources they waste on AGW computer models, running through hundreds before finding one that seems to temporarily support the meme perhaps answers to these far more pressing concerns could be found.

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    According to 'Wikileaks' the so called scientists behind the "Global Warming" myth cooked the books and used erroneous data to reach a forgone conclusion. They are working for the Globalists to change world order (Agenda 21). Climate change has been happening since the Earth began and will continue that way.

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    Bingo!

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    Global warming is the greatest HOAX ever put over on mankind. The Earth warms and cools on a cycle, we are not the ones who decide this. This just a another HOAX. concocted by the elites to try put more control over mankind. JMHO

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    Climate changes. There was no rain for a long time. This 'global warming' thing came about from the EPA and pollution studies. True I don't like the pollution, flying into LA really sucks. Unfortunately I don't want to get rid of the mountain cedar, oak, and all the lovely flowers that give us food.
    The ozone test station is in Antarctica and there is always a hole in the ozone there due to the magnetic fields of the earth. Guess if we get rid of gravity, the ozone will be OK?
    Whatever!

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    2/3 of Nevada and Utah was under water as recent as 10,000 years ago. In some areas you can easily see the ring around the tub where the beach was. At the Southeast end of Lake Tahoe under 150' of water there is a forest of stumps, some nearly 2 feet in diameter. Walker Lake at the terminous of Walker River is approx 14 miles long and 8 or so miles wide. Twice in the last 5000 years it was no more than a cattail swamp. To claim that climate change is something new is ludicrous. To think that we are causing it, or can stop it is retarded. The naratives purpose is to raise fear to keep the right people in power. That is something to be afraid of, it is caused by man, and it is something that we can change. If we just find the courage and want it bad enough. If we do not the world will be changed forever by people that do want their agenda bad enough. And not for the better.

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    Michael Crichton " State of Fear" A very good read on the subject.

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    the "global warming, or "climate change" hysteria of bs made up by scientist and politicians who need to line their pockets with cash. in the 70's and 80's they were claiming global cooling. sadly when pressed all they can come up with is about 70yrs worth of data, and conveniently ignore the hundreds of thousands of years previous to that where the earth has gone thru cooling and heating cycles. there used to be glaciers covering large portions of N America, and they didnt melt because of man. this all doesnt mean we shouldnt do our best to take care of our environment, but we shouldnt panic about it, nor should we make people rich because they play on our fears.

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    Al Gore is an embarrassment to the good people of my home state.
    All his lies and BS just line his pockets with money. He needs to be on the end of a rope with the rest of those................

    Global Warming. One of the biggest lies of this generation.

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    Global warming does exist. Where do you think coal comes from?
    It is just being used as a fortune maker by the likes of Gore.
    It is the perfectly normal progression and evolution of our entire solar system, maybe even the universe, but definitely not just our planet. Those who try to assign credit for climate change are full of bull,,,,,,,,, unless the hot air from their lips is doing it.
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    Climate change is a well documented fact. The extent to which various anthropogenic activities influence climate change is neither an established fact nor well understood.

    The claim that climate is changing due to anthropogenic warming is plausible, but far from proven. Still, plausible alone bears both further scrutiny and probable action. The first problem is that there are those who believe this a quasi-religious issue. Either you “believe” in man-made climate change and say the climate catechism: “climate change is man-made, current, catastrophic, and requires urgent fundamental changes in the way we live and govern ourselves” or you are an apostate, ignorant, anti-science, Trumpist.

    That binary philosophy, established by the climate cultists, is a major problem.

    There is enough evidence to support the plausibility, albeit not the certainty, of man-made climate change. For the cultists, this means that control over government and your daily life must be given to the collectivist elitists who will save us, mainly by liningbtheir pockets and those of their green, robber-baron pals in the renewables subsidy industry. This despite the fact that the same scientific consensus on which they base their claim for urgent action to address climate change also states that actions to stabilize climate cannot be achieved by renewables alone and, if we try, will be at least 138% more expensive. That means 5% of global HDP more expensive each year through the end of the century.

    So, when investigating the issues around climate change, the motives of its most fanatic cultists must bear extensive investigation. The climate changes. The extent to which man influences such changes is poorly understood. Anyone who claims they clearly understand the influences of mankind on climate is a liar. Action to prevent substantial climate change may be merited. Such action should entail the lowest possible cost and least disruption to global, national, and regional economies and populations as possible.

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    Yes climate change is happening. If the Earth is feminine ask your wife about temperature changes as she has aged. Why is it that Eric and Leif Ericson could live on Greenland growing crops in the 1300-1600 but had to leave as the temperatures dropped excessively? Cycles happen, that God can cause droughts, rain, floods, tornadoes and storms in areas should be evident to all who belie his word. As Humans will some have to answer for their sins against humanity by depriving the earths resources for others at Judgement Day? That is between you and him.
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    The most man can cause is .01 change over 100years.
    Studying the archeology of this planet, it seems that for most of its existence, it was tropical. The reason for the ice caps is due to an ice age that occurred and eventually we will cycle back to full tropical. No more snow, global temps similar to that of southern Fl.
    This will mean more rain, less desert, more crops, more drinking water.
    Despite what those with an agenda wanting more power through fear of its citizens may want you to believe, cycling back to a warmer planet is a good thing, the proof is found in paleontology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guntechholsters View Post
    The most man can cause is .01 change over 100years.
    Studying the archeology of this planet, it seems that for most of its existence, it was tropical. The reason for the ice caps is due to an ice age that occurred and eventually we will cycle back to full tropical. No more snow, global temps similar to that of southern Fl.
    This will mean more rain, less desert, more crops, more drinking water.
    Despite what those with an agenda wanting more power through fear of its citizens may want you to believe, cycling back to a warmer planet is a good thing, the proof is found in paleontology.
    Yeah!!! Bring it!!!

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    Let's be up to date on climate- Last year was the most powerful and longest lasting La Nina in several decades (colder than normal ocean temps on the Equator in the Pacific) bringing drought to the U.S. Southwest. A couple weeks ago La Nina started to break bringing moisture to S. Calif. and Nevada. Last week La Nina came back with a vengeance. In 2013 the Antarctic ice pack moved farther north than anytime in the last 400 years and last week ice started forming down there ahead of 2013. We are in a natural cooling cycle apparently caused by sunspots (scientists don't understand how that works) and the global warming priesthood is getting more hysterical by the day trying to cover it up.

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    ^ #37, spot on. Bullseye

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    Problem is that the so-called learned are so intent on self-importance that they profess to already know everything and are just explaining it to us peons.
    We don't need them to accept Gods miracle and realize that he knew what he was doing at creation.
    At one time "they" also explained the world was flat and we were the center of the universe.
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    There is a ***** of a wind blowin in off Lake Superior tonight. An ore boat is stuck in the drift ice that packed the bay. If there is warming to be had, well bring it. Al Gore ( noted climatologist and internet inventor ), well he is only slightly less hideous than the hilda beast, but I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. Saw him eating baked Alaska once at LakeTahoe.

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