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    A lot more than a sharp stick.

    What is a good Deep carry firearm or backup firearm

    I carry these, it gives you a lot more than a sharp stick.

    Seecamp .32 or .380 but there is a $400 price difference between the two calibers
    NAA Pug 22 mag.

    Hornady Critical Defense gives you .380 performance
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    For me, the question is...how far are you contemplating confrontation? My most carried is a pocket 25, I consider it a belly gun, meaning, if I have to use it, I will stick it in your face,chest or belly and empty it. I am by no means a marksman. I do not plan to go into combat, only survive. Kinda like a fist fight, I'll bite your ear off if I need to. EW, now I sound like Mike

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    I'm with Flatline, I carry for everyday stuff a Ruger LCP .380 and when the occation demands it, I carry a SCCY 9mm. I carry the LCP in my pants pocket and the SCCY in an inside the waist band holster.
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    Try the Keltec P3AT. Reliable, inexpensive and only 8 oz. Easily carried everyday in your front pocket. The Ruger LCP (which was copied from the KT) also a good choice.
    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
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    You mean like a Beretta 21A 22LR or Tomcat 380 or AMT 380 Backup or Mini Revolver 22 short?
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    Any small, lightweight center fire. A .32 acp with Buffalo Bore ammo will be as affective as a 380, and would be a good choice. I personally carry a cobra .38 special derringer in my back pocket evey single day. Its the one firearm I don't ever go anywhere without.

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    I also carry the .380 but the baby nines are just as small now and not much heavier.
    9 is a better performer. But Anything is better than nothing right !
    That NAA 22 magnum will deafen a perp fer sure. It's the best to have on hand when you have no other way to carry a bigger firearm. It's nothing in your pocket, under a hat, around your neck,under a belt or on your wrist with long sleeve shirt,sock,boot, or inside your glove in the cold weather! In a coffee mug w/lid, inside a small carved out book, rolled up paper or magazine,plastic candy container, potato chip container, inside a bread roll, sandwich( no peanut butter) in a baggy.
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    Sig P938, it's the wifes but fits perfectly in my front pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonie View Post
    Sig P938, it's the wifes but fits perfectly in my front pocket.
    My Wife was wanting too look at small carry gun (Xmas is coming) and we went into the LGS and nice sales lady showed us a few including the SIG 938 then after we sort of expressed interest but I was like that's an expensive choice if your not sure the sales lady says come look at the kimber Micro 9 for $529 and looking at it quickly it looked like a clone/twin - even the flush magazines interchange (kimbers are cheaper!) the extended don't (unfortunately). Had her get the SIG 938 and put next to the Kimber and there are subtle differences. Santa is saving up but the wife still hasn't made up her mind, except to say she doesn't like blow back 380 ACP pocket pistols.
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    I don't know, back in the day pre 1900, NORMAL pants pockets could swallow up a standard issue colt 1860 revolver. Hows that for deep carry?

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    Santa is saving up but the wife still hasn't made up her mind, except to say she doesn't like blow back 380 ACP pocket pistols.
    The Keltec and Ruger 380's are locked breach pistols. That said due to their light weight they can be a bit brisk in the recoil department. Myself I gladly tolerate the recoil for the ease of always having the gun on me and available. If I have to strap on a holster I probably would not carry all the time.
    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
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    Kel Tec P32.
    Kel Tec P3AT
    Ruger LCP (Kel Tec copy)
    The P32 is a bit smaller and easier to carry, 1 extra round and way easier to shoot (no sharp snappy recoil).

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    Quote Originally Posted by fecmech View Post
    The Keltec and Ruger 380's are locked breach pistols. That said due to their light weight they can be a bit brisk in the recoil department. Myself I gladly tolerate the recoil for the ease of always having the gun on me and available. If I have to strap on a holster I probably would not carry all the time.

    If you think the .380s are snappy you should try one of the small "pocket 9s". I'm very happy with my P32 Keltec, it's no target pistol but it goes bang every time.

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    If I am someplace that believes in the 2nd Amendment, then I'm probably carrying a 10mm or a .45ACP.

    If I have the misfortune to be somewhere else, then it might be a Beretta 21A (or if need really deep concealment, the NAA .22mag). Sometimes, a .357mag snub nose 7-shot.
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    I like the KelTec P3AT as already mentioned. Shot mine a good bit last week. Snappy? Yup it is. It is not an all day target type gun though. It does what it needs to do. Carry it EVERYWHERE!
    You can miss fast & you can miss a lot, but only hits count.

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    The Sig P938 was my choice because it is a 9mm. My wife carries an older S&W M37 nickeled plated Airweight since she can merely point it and pull the trigger. My niece has a Sig P238 ... which I only after the fact determined was also a locked breech semi auto. My brother carries a S&W 442 (shrouded hammer). In each of these instances it is a case of preference. I think it is great that we have choices and options. Big Boomer

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    Seecamp might be better quality gun than most of the others. Very concealable. Big price difference from .32 to .380. Not sure what changes they had to make to the gun. Supposed to be pretty heavy recoil in the .380.
    Another one I just saw was the Kimber Micro 9. Might want to check it out.

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    Ruger LCR in 9mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyVet1959 View Post
    If I am someplace that believes in the 2nd Amendment, then I'm probably carrying a 10mm or a .45ACP.

    If I have the misfortune to be somewhere else, then it might be a Beretta 21A (or if need really deep concealment, the NAA .22mag). Sometimes, a .357mag snub nose 7-shot.
    Yes everywhere is not pro 2nd amendment.
    Conceal carry means also it doesn't print. Once I was at a Pizza and Chicken joint. A young family was there, Dad was most likely carry a full-size pistol. I could see it from across the room printing through his shirt.

    I have a Sig 938, fine pistol it is, but unless you're wearing some sort of cargo pants it just too heavy for my taste.

    A buddy of mine takes his NAA pug 22 mag to schools, hospitals and any no gun zone. The only place he won't go unarmed is a court house. He just hates those metal detectors.
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