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    Looking for the original .30 Badger authors

    Hello Everyone,

    I am new to this site and have been searching the internet for anyone who can help me with re-chambering a n H&R shotgun to use the .30 Badger cartridge. I have found that the H&R shotgun action was the first used to make this particular wildcat. Any help would be much appreciated.

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    Sadly the person you are looking for hasn`t been on this web site for about a year. Yes indeed the 30 Badger is a fun cartridge/gun combo. As has been said often you need 2 five gallon pails when you go out shooting, 1 pail of ammo and the other for the empties!Robert

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    Here is the guy you want. He was just on yesterday.
    Send him a PM
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    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmort View Post
    Here is the guy you want. He was just on yesterday.
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    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/memb...4874-badgeredd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varmint17 View Post
    Hello Everyone,

    I am new to this site and have been searching the internet for anyone who can help me with re-chambering a n H&R shotgun to use the .30 Badger cartridge. I have found that the H&R shotgun action was the first used to make this particular wildcat. Any help would be much appreciated.
    What is it you need to know?

    Finding someone to stub the barrel for you will be the hardest thing unless you're good on a lathe.

    Manson has the reamer print on file I do believe.

    .30 Mauser or 7,62x25 Tokarev dies are all you need.
    I use a set of Lee Tokarev dies myself.

    I've tried several head stamps of .38 special but Federal has been the best. Some have 20+ loads and I've only lost 2 due to a cracked neck so far. The beauty of the Badger though....38 brass is cheap and plentiful so who cares.

    Once you get brass made and fire formed back the sizer off and head space on the shoulder NOT the rim. It makes a difference in accuracy and brass life.

    32-20 data is perfectly interchangeable.

    If you'll use an SB2 rifle action instead of an SB1 shotgun action you'll be happier. The smaller firing pin and tighter fit of the pin makes things easier AND with the stronger action you can go FAR beyond anything the 32-20 is capable of. 38 brass is much stronger.
    I've pushed some loads into .300 blackout territory with no signs of trouble.

    You'd be doing yourself a big favor to pickup a chronograph when loading for a wildcat.


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    Manufacturing the round is no issue. Once I read how it was done, I just made 50 rounds to see how the brass would handle it. I am using the Lee 7.62X25 Tok dies. What I was trying to find was someone who already had the reamer and possibly the lathe to make the insert or be able to manufacture a blank barrel for the action I already have. None of the gunsmiths near me will do it.

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    Yeah, it's not as easy as it sounds the first time you hear it. There are a couple of ways to do it but lopping off a shotgun barrel, threading the ID and screwing in a new barrel is by far the best.

    David White at D&T Custom Gun Works will do as good a job as can be done by anyone. Barrel stubbing is his speciality.

    This is a link to his forum. Talk to him, he IS the man for doing it right. I doubt he has the reamer on hand but as I said, pretty sure Manson Reamers has the print on file and can cut you one.

    https://dandtcustomgunworks.websitetoolbox.com
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    Thank you, I will give D&T a look.

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    While your gun is in the expert hands of David, have him glass bed a scope mount and do a trigger job. He is not cheap but he IS good and stands behind his work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varmint17 View Post
    Manufacturing the round is no issue. Once I read how it was done, I just made 50 rounds to see how the brass would handle it. I am using the Lee 7.62X25 Tok dies. What I was trying to find was someone who already had the reamer and possibly the lathe to make the insert or be able to manufacture a blank barrel for the action I already have. None of the gunsmiths near me will do it.
    Dave Manson of Manson Reamers (https://mansonreamers.com/) has the prints and makes the reamer. I would suggest that you specify a slight change in neck diameter to .335" to make it more compatible with nearly any 38 Special parent brass. Just tell him Edd Badgley sent you to him. In your case I would also mention to David at D&T you would be supplying the reamer for the job.

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