Need a mold for 7.62x25 Tokarev - suggestions?

[retread]

I need some guidance on choosing a mold for a newly acquired 7.62x25 Tokarev. I have not experience with the cartridge. Any one have any suggestions for a appropriate mold?

[Survival Bill]

its just a .30 caliber so any mold that will cast close to what grain boolets you are using now will work you should of course have some load data for it too...

[Czech_too]

Take a look at the Lee 311-93-1R, that's what I've used in the past.

[GhostHawk]

Comes down to specifics.

I have used the little Lee 311-93-1R and in my Cz-52 I had issues with failure to go into battery. Sometimes the sides of the bullet would engage the rifling and the bullet would "stick" with the chamber partly open.

For me the solution was the Lee .314 90 gr Truncated Cone sized down to .311.
Loaded so the formost driving band was seated just in front of the case mouth.
I got 100% function, they loaded, cycled, plunked, they just worked.

Mostly because of that truncated cone design. There was nothing touching the rifling with the round fully loaded.

Your mileage may vary, but that is what works for me.

[Outpost75]

Tom Ellis at Accurate has two molds especially for the 7.62x25 Tokarev:

31-087B matches the weight of "P" type ball ammo and can also be used in the .32 ACP

31-100T provides a heavier bullet which provides greater recoil impulse for more reliable function, which fits the Cz52 and TT33 magazine without having the bullet base protrude below the neck into the powder space.

Correct powder charge for reliable function is 5.2-5.3 grains of Bullseye with 31-087B for 1450 fps,
with 31-100T use 5 grains of Bullseye for 1330 fps or 7.4 grains of AutoComp for 1450 fps. I cast bullets 15-16 BHN with 50-50 wheelweights and linotype, size .311" and lube with 50-50- Alox-beeswax. I have used both bullets in the Cz52 and TT33 with good results, better accuracy them ball ammo and no leading issues.

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Chronograph checks from T33 pistol with 4.6" barrel:

Romanian Type P Ball, Factory 22, 1984___1461 fps, 27 Sd, 76ES
Accurate 31-100T, 7.4 grs. AutoComp____1450, 16, 50
Accurate 31-100T, 5.0 grs. Bullseye______1330, 9, 37
Accurate 31-087B, 5.3 grs. Bullseye______1433, 28, 71

[Guesser]

311227, drops right at 90 gr. I have one I'm not using as it's too heavy for 32 Auto (7.65).

[Outpost75]

311227, drops right at 90 gr. I have one I'm not using as it's too heavy for 32 Auto (7.65).

Maybe not for light alloy frame, but with 2.4 of Unique or 2.5 of AutoComp it will work just fine in steel frames if you size to .311 and seat out to 0.95" minimum OAL.

[Cowboy_Dan]

Mine likes my MiHec .32 caliber semiwadcutter, I don't recall the mould number offhand. I want to try my NOE semiwadcutter, a clone of an RCBS model, as it has a hollowpoint option. Both are just a shade over 100 gr. Shot out Yugo M57 (TT-patern), the MiHec boolit will cut a clean hole in a broken cast iron skillet at 15 yards.

[KVO]

I use the RCBS 98gr SWC in the similar, but much lower pressure .30 Luger (1930's commercial Luger). If feeds and functions well, but has to be seated deep with the base of the projectile below the neck/shoulder junction. Just thought I'd throw that out there as you'd likely have better luck getting samples of the RCBS boolit to try before forking out for a custom mold. Of course, you're not ever going to be happier than if you get an Accurate!

[Thin Man]

Look into your mold stash for any mold you have that was designed to be used in the 32 S&W caliber. That would be a .311-.313 diameter boolit with a weight in the 85-90 grain range. Choose your alloy, hardening technique, sizing diameter and other details and you should be right at home.

[jdfoxinc]

I'm casting Lyman .32 acp bullets that are coming out at 82gr. Then PBGC to push them towards 1400fps out of a TT. And higher out of my Atlantic arms Posh.

[HABCAN]

Post #3, +1.

[brayhaven]

Post #3, +1.

Yes, That's a fun little bullet. I used it in my 30-20TC

[HABCAN]

Ho ho & ho! That's what I use it in................and a lot of others too.

[spqr]

Old post, new to me. Thought I would add on. Using new star line brass, inside neck on this is .306. Having trouble getting .311 Lee boolit in. Opening the neck a bit, and sizing down to .308. I am talking to Tom about a .305 bullet design close to the Czzech milsurp specs (.306) from one I took down. But Tom doesn’t do RN, so I’m going to have to settle for a .18 metplat.
Anyway for now the sized down fat round nose Lee is powder coated and seated over H110. The new Lee seating die works flawless on this bottleneck, never a crooked placement. I’ve run 9.5, 10.5, 11.5, and 12.5 of the H110. The lower two are my choice. 12.5 scares the hell out of the natives, but doesn’t do much over and above putting on a light show. My chrono isn’t set up for indoors at the moment, but I would hazard to gues around 1500. Update with the Accurate bullet info when that happens, along with Bullseye and Titegroup load info.

[gwpercle]

Lee TL314-90-SWC , although it says SWC the profile is more truncated cone and should work .

The Lee 358-105-SWC has the same truncated cone type profile and works great in the several 9mm Lugers and one 380 acp I've tried them in .
Cost of a Lee 2 cavity mould is nominal and would be worth trying out .
Gary

[Conditor22]

Lee TL314-90-SWC was a special order/group buy mold

[WRideout]

For a while now, I have been using the Lee 311-100-2R. That is a 30 cal round nose 100 gr. boolit. I size them to .311 for my Romanian Tok, lube with thinned Alox or Ben's Liquid Lube, and load them over 6.0 gr Unique. Feeds well, not too dirty. Accuracy is acceptable for a combat pistol.

Wayne

[Misery-Whip]

+1 for truncated cone. I couldnt shoot cast in mine( .314 barrel.) Had good luck with 100gr .312 xtps and AA#7. Lee data

[44Blam]

I shoot the Accurate 31-085HG but I had him make it without the lube grove. It is a TC shape that is gas checked.
I've got a W296 load that sends that little sucker about 1600 fps and also has a massive fireball.