I was wondering..............

[triggerhappy243]

I dont care about your site. It is irrelevant. The mods will not show me anything. I do not even need to ask. That is why they are called private messages. Whatever.................... Right?

[FrontierMuzzleloading]

Exactly. I can get you their email addresses but that's about it. Not sure it that would help or not as it will be a he said he said thing from both of them.

I don't really ever can folks on my site unless its really nasty, so when I do, you know it was way overboard. I actually had to remove one of my best friends due to him getting nasty on the site and that plain hurt, but it was best for the members.

[triggerhappy243]

[QUOTE=FrontierMuzzleloading;4128660]Exactly. I can get you their email addresses but that's about it. Not sure it that would help or not as it will be a he said he said thing from both of them.

WHO'S EMAIL ADDRESSES CAN YOU GET?

[charlie b]

Egad! You guys need to can it. Or just ban yourselves now.

I don't care about your feelings on any of these people. I do regret them not participating, but, I also don't want the drama they brought. If you want drama go somewhere else.

[No_1]

The problem with threads such as this would be folks commenting without knowing the complete story. Anyone who knows us (Staff members) know we rarely ban anyone and for a member or members to reach a perma-banned status something pretty serious has to happen. I will not discuss details so don't ask. Just know that some things don't mix well together - sometimes it is liquids, sometimes it's solids and sometimes it's people. In this case it got so bad everyone had to go. Apparently those members have found a home elsewhere on the net and I am sure the discussions have continued there. Asking for me to let them back in after the knock down drag out house cleaning they did here is ludicrous but to put it into prospective I will ask each of you this simple question - If you allowed me into your house and found I left a big stinking turd on your dining room table would you throw me out then let me back in or would you throw me out and never let me back in? That is how I feel about what has happened here.....

[Squeeze]

the thing is, Its a public forum. Not a private house. forums live and die by Administrator/moderators actions, even more so than members occasional indiscretions. I know nothing of the story here, but a few decades on various forums, and Ive seen them swim and sink, after various member/moderator interactions.

[ShooterAZ]

I know nothing of the story either, and truthfully I don't care to know. If people can't "agree to disagree", and are unable to be respectful of others, they don't belong here. I'm here to learn and share, let's just move on with it.

[dragon813gt]

the thing is, Its a public forum. Not a private house.

It's a privately owned forum and you agree to the TOS when you use it.

[Squeeze]

It's a privately owned forum and you agree to the TOS when you use it.

And what does the TOS say about dining room table turds??

[dragon813gt]

And what does the TOS say about dining room table turds??

The owner of this site is the one who posted that. I would not go down that road.

[FrontierMuzzleloading]

This forum is far from dying over 2 members that are no longer here folks. Lets just let ease up. No sense getting at each others throats over someones that got themselves in trouble on here.

[Edward]

Johnson could be let back in, but after reading all the bs 54bore wrote in private to johnson, I dont want anything to do with him nor would i want others to have to deal with him.

I have a new found respect for you , just sayin /Ed

[No_1]

the thing is, Its a public forum. Not a private house. forums live and die by Administrator/moderators actions, even more so than members occasional indiscretions. I know nothing of the story here, but a few decades on various forums, and Ive seen them swim and sink, after various member/moderator interactions.

Actually this is a private forum. Forums live or die based on the members actions. Subject matter changes by the day base on a variety of factors. Attitudes change with the weather - for example when it is extremely hot or cold outside more members are on the site therefore the chances of personality clashes is greater. Everyone always try to say the place is going down because one of their friends gets banned - I promise you it isn't.

In the end I make the rules and as long as the rules are followed things are good but when the rules are broken the moderators or myself must step in.

And what does the TOS say about dining room table turds??

Apparently you think it says something IRT to that statement so why don't you point it out to me....

[Recluse]

the thing is, Its a public forum. Not a private house. forums live and die by Administrator/moderators actions, even more so than members occasional indiscretions. I know nothing of the story here, but a few decades on various forums, and Ive seen them swim and sink, after various member/moderator interactions.

Not exactly. This is--and always has been--a private forum, the history of which goes back into the early 2000's with the Shooter.com days.

I have a residence in an airpark. It is a privately owned airport--all the hangar owners are the owners of the airport. We have a public use runway, but for which we receive neither accept any public funding. Visiting pilots follow our rules for the runway, taxiways and tie-down areas or they are asked to leave and not come back. It's that simple. If/when we see a rules infraction, someone advises the offending pilot. We do it in a gentle and friendly way but with the firmness that comes from this being OUR airport and NOT a public facility.

Our rules at the airport are for the safety and compliance of ALL aircraft at the field--not just those visiting or transiting the area.

The rules of this forum have always been about the mutual respect and discourse in conversations and sharing/discussing of information. Personal vendettas have never been tolerated, nor has profanity or pornographic images or much of anything else you wouldn't want your ten-year-old granddaughter seeing and reading.

I've been around here for a while. I've had disagreements. I use the "Ignore" feature very frequently. I also exercise self-discipline and take time off away from here. In years past, I have donated generously to the board and there have been years I haven't donated a dime. Makes no difference. I am no better or worse, privileged or denied than any other member here with ten posts to their history or ten-thousand.

This forum exists to facilitate discussions about firearms and the joyful art-meets-science-with-a-touch-of-voodoo-tossed-in spectrum of taking lead in its many splendid form and casting it into useful projectiles that we gloriously refer to as "boolits."

To that means, the door out of this forum swings as easily as the door to enter.

Regards,

[starmac]

It has been my observation over the years that it usually takes a member to try very hard to get banned, much less perma banned. I was on a self imposed timeout when these three got the axe, so didn't have a clue what happened, and it makes no difference. All of them were pretty knowlegable, more so than I, but there are others on here just as knowlegable that I can and will learn from. For what it is worth, it was infrequent, but several times over the years I did notice one of them try really, really hard to get a time out, which was unusual and generally out of character for him, we never know what folks have going on in their life. The other two I never did see anything but helpful posts, but apparently they did get out of hand too..

[sharps4590]

I have never known good manners and polite behavior to go out of fashion.