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    I am very fond of neoprene replacement or OEM grips on my carry guns. They possibly saved my life one fine evening when a client elected to relieve me of my sidearm by grasping and pulling aside the outer half of my issued Bianchi breakfront duty holster. I got my right/strong-side hand around the grip before he could, and my left knee to his solar plexus disincentivized him from further silliness. First day of use of that nice, new holster--and he destroyed it. Sprung the rentention system completely. I had the old former holster still inside my locker, so after lodging my miscreant in the Graybar Hilton I re-fit the old scabbard onto the Sam Browne and kept on using it until we shifted to bottom-feeders from the roller-guns in 1987. And I still have that old scabbard. I still use Hogue and Pachmayr neoprene aftermarket grips, too.
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    oldhenry,

    By 1972, when I bought a Model 15, GEORGE F CAKE COMPANY in Dallas charged me 103.oo for a 4" revolver. = That was the price for sworn peace officers only, btw.
    (By the time that I bought a Model 15 for duty carry, the stainless steel Model 67 was 133.oo. Also, by that time the Model 15/67 was available in 2" & 4".)

    yours, tex

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrol & Powder View Post
    Henry, I'm digging that old vertical twin motorcycle from your avatar !
    Thanks,
    Actually it's a single: 500cc. It's a '79 Yamaha SR500 that I attempted to convert into a Brit style roadster. It's similar to a BSA Gold Star except it's easy to crank & the headlamp works..........Oh!.....it also doesn't leak oil.

    I'm addicted to 500 singles (I have 2 more SR500.....they're '78 models). I'm now in the final stages of a Honda GB500 restoration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumbcocker View Post
    In 61 $79 was serious coin.
    Especially if you're making $50.00 a week.

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    There are no flies on a good wadcutter and 3.0 gr of Bullseye either. As far as removing the bevels i would save my money for a NOE or Accurate mold. There is a large difference in quality, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldhenry View Post
    Thanks,
    Actually it's a single: 500cc. It's a '79 Yamaha SR500 that I attempted to convert into a Brit style roadster. It's similar to a BSA Gold Star except it's easy to crank & the headlamp works..........Oh!.....it also doesn't leak oil.

    I'm addicted to 500 singles (I have 2 more SR500.....they're '78 models). I'm now in the final stages of a Honda GB500 restoration.

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    A real sport involves either gasoline or gunpowder.......everything else is just a game
    Ah, I could only see one side and assumed it was a twin. Fun ride. Light, nimble and quick.

    And - "A real sport involves either gasoline or gunpowder......everything else is just a game" ; Seems like that should be my tagline
    signed - Petrol & Powder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrol & Powder View Post
    Ah, I could only see one side and assumed it was a twin. Fun ride. Light, nimble and quick.

    And - "A real sport involves either gasoline or gunpowder......everything else is just a game" ; Seems like that should be my tagline
    signed - Petrol & Powder
    Actually that tag line was originally "stolen' from E. Hemingway: the difference being that E.H. held out bull fighting & auto racing as the only real sport. I borrowed it from my target pulling partner @ Ft. Benning. Like me he shot NRA High Power & rode a bike. He was quite a character (also a Master Class shooter):.......we referred to him as the poet laureate of Easley Range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnfolk75 View Post
    For the last 40 or so years, my go-to load for 4" K Frames has been 5.0 grains of Unique under a 158 grain LSWC using CCI-500 P-primers. I bump up to 5.5/5.8 when I want more power, has worked well for me for many 1,000's of rounds
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    Yessir. 5.0 grains of Unique under #358477 or #358429 does some fine work. The heavier "429" bullet might be edging things toward the "+P" scale a bit, but a post-war K-frame or Official Police can absorb them without strain. The 429/5.0 load is the pet load for my 1949 Colt OMT x 6", and it accounts for LOTS of varmints. It does almost as well from an early 60s Model 10 x 5", a service-grade wheelgun with the nicest factory action on a S&W product I have ever run.
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    I've owned 3 Combat Masterpieces- raising kids sent the first two away but I still have one and my wife has the stainless version. You can't convince me that ANY other revolver is better. It's kind of amusing- she has Magna grips on hers and I have old HE grips on mine and we both like what we have. Her hands are 2/3 the size of mine. She prefers 158 swcs at 800 fps and nothing else; I'm flavor of the week guy- 105 swc @1000 fps at present.
    Best, Thomas.

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    For about as long as I've been involved with firearms, I've had some type of S&W K-frame. There's just something incredible about that design. A 3" -4" K-frame chambered in 38 Special is a remarked tool.

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    back when I was transitioning from short to long pants, they used to call that Model 15 the "Combat Masterpiece." I believe they were not lying. I've had three over the years, but am amazed at present to find that my safe is lacking a representative sample, though I do have a pair of M-14"s. You can spend more and you might spend less, but you are hard pressed to buy better. If I was restricted to a single handgun, an M-15 would do me just fine.
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    I have a Model 15, Model 14, and a Model 67 and they are absolutely amazing guns. To me in a .38 sp they are absolute perfection. I shoot all three all the time and all they do is make me smile and look like a much better shot than I really am.

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    I've only got one 15, had it for 40yrs, shoot cast 158 RN/ 5.5gr Unique, not +P but juicy. The gun
    loves this load or I would back her down some. I have small hands and S&W Targets are two big
    for me for one hand shooting. I went T-Grip route which was better, but went to Herret and Sile
    grips that aren't as thick a S&W but have about the same contor for filling out behind trigger guard. For K frame S&W there is many grip options as well as holsters. So happens I have a
    El Paso - 3person that I like very much when carrying gun on right side. I like to carry pistols hi
    on my Left side. It keeps it out of the way and is easy to reach. I like trigger exposed and open
    slot for back sight, also thumb break. Nobody sold one so I modified a plain thumb break with a
    Exacto knife. Put a wooden dowel in hi speed grinder and burnished the cut edges, cut no stitches
    so it looks factory. My finger is on trigger and thumb on snap when I reach for it, no chance of
    fumble. It's a DA revolver it's not going off unless you pull the trigger, I never shoot DA anyway.
    For CCW the pancake type is probably the best.

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    give the lee 105 a try. its been accurate in all my k frames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Smale View Post
    give the lee 105 a try. its been accurate in all my k frames.
    I'm using that bullet now. I bought the mould here on S&S and I'm very happy with it.

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    Hello, If I read correctly or Lyman drops to small? Bump up to Lyman #2 or powder coat and you can add .002 to the diameter. Just a thought.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
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LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
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