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    We visit an Amish community a couple of times during growing season and buy produce. It's a long drive to get there, but their produce (which is good) is so cheap that if one lived close by it wouldn't be worth the trouble of growing and maintaining a garden unless one just enjoyed gardening. Bread is good too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waksupi View Post
    Whenever I pass through that area, I stop there.
    I was wondering if anyone from the forum might have been there. Fairbank and Hazleton, Iowa have a couple good Amish places also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iowa Fox View Post
    I was wondering if anyone from the forum might have been there. Fairbank and Hazleton, Iowa have a couple good Amish places also.
    Part of my territory. Been thru there a number of times and know a few people.

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    Costco does have good prices on flour, sugar, rice and beans. I am not aware of anyone in a 40 mile radius that grows anything other than hay, barley, cattle and sheep commercially. If I extend it further I can get potatoes and grain.
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    Wish I had a barley source... I can malt it myself for making beer... which would be a great barter item.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbogue1 View Post
    Look for a grocery supply in your area try Cash and Carry they have stores nationally.
    Aren't they mainly in the Pacific NW? I know I used to shop one in Portland all the time. Their website only shows stores in seven states.
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    That's what I thought. They are part of Smart and final and cater to the restaurant industry. I buy a lot of meat at the Modesto, ca store and pellets for my Traeger. Most Inge there are in the xl sizes. Signed up and get their sales once a week. Favorite store for meat like whole Top Sirloins, Sirloin Tips, baby backs.......I'll miss it when the wife retires and we can get out of CA.

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    Mary it is not easy to find barley anymore. Seems they don't grow it as much as they used to.

    Best bet would be to find a farmer who has some he grows for animal feed.

    An acre of barley with a decent yield would make a LOT of beer!

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    I use 20 pounds per 11 gallon batch for a strong English bitter. The malting process is a lot of hand work turning the mass, checking, kilning to desired color level...

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    fields and fields of barley around here but it all belongs to Coors and the farmers can not sell to anybody else. dont know any of them personally or I would try to obtain some for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostHawk View Post
    Mary it is not easy to find barley anymore. Seems they don't grow it as much as they used to.

    Best bet would be to find a farmer who has some he grows for animal feed.

    An acre of barley with a decent yield would make a LOT of beer!
    I thought they grew a lot of Barley just west of you, in the Golden Triangle?
    has that lessened? or is it just going to commercial brewers on a contract, like Rancher just said?

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    I was actually born and raised in and near Ada Minnesota.

    Growing up all the farmers had at least some barley, but I just don't see it anymore.

    We do have an Anhouser Busch Malt plant in Moorhead but I suspect that is all contract.

    I tried talking to the guys that farm my dad's land some 5 years ago about finding some barley, and they did not know anyone who still had some.

    If I really wanted some badly I could probably call around feed stores and elevators and find a few bushels.

    I have never actually malted my own, but it would be a nice skill to have should the SHTF.

    Beer yes, wine, sparkling wild plum wines, mead.

    I reckon if I actually ever need to do it I'll figure it out as I go and muddle through.

    Would not mind learning how to make sour mash whiskey either.
    But I forsee nothing but trouble if I start trying to talking with old guys down in the Kentucky hills about teaching me. eh?

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    Way to expensive to ship! I go through 48 pounds in 6 weeks...

    Quote Originally Posted by rancher1913 View Post
    fields and fields of barley around here but it all belongs to Coors and the farmers can not sell to anybody else. dont know any of them personally or I would try to obtain some for you.

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    Sour mash is pretty easy, cracked corn, water, mix and let it ferment with the lid off at first to get the wild yeast. I wouldn't know anything about distilling

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostHawk View Post
    I was actually born and raised in and near Ada Minnesota.

    Growing up all the farmers had at least some barley, but I just don't see it anymore.

    We do have an Anhouser Busch Malt plant in Moorhead but I suspect that is all contract.

    I tried talking to the guys that farm my dad's land some 5 years ago about finding some barley, and they did not know anyone who still had some.

    If I really wanted some badly I could probably call around feed stores and elevators and find a few bushels.

    I have never actually malted my own, but it would be a nice skill to have should the SHTF.

    Beer yes, wine, sparkling wild plum wines, mead.

    I reckon if I actually ever need to do it I'll figure it out as I go and muddle through.

    Would not mind learning how to make sour mash whiskey either.
    But I forsee nothing but trouble if I start trying to talking with old guys down in the Kentucky hills about teaching me. eh?

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    Distilling is easy here in the frozen north land. Bottle it into 2 liter pop bottles about 3/4 full. Set out on the back deck or the porch come some night of -10 or lower.

    In the morning drain the bottles. What runs out is alcohol, a little water, and all the sugars the yeast have not yet eaten.

    "Freeze brandy"

    No smell, no equipment required, hard part is just not telling anyone about it.

    If you freeze it twice you can get up into fortified wine/cordial strength. Bit short of real brandy.

    Has a good kick to it though, and because the freezing concentrates the sugars it tends to be pretty smooth going down. Let it age for a month and bottle it.

    I know enough about distilling to not doing as long as we still have the BATF around.
    Once those guys are gone, well be lots of folks making a little shine I think.

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    Back i my misspent youth I had a glass condenser coil with a water jacket. We just had to try it out... was some tasty stuff!

    I know h=guys who are freeze concentrating beers... lot of work for very little product in the end. But one guy did get a beer up to 30% ABV

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    In my younger years I was a grain inspector. Sometimes the extra grain from sampling would disappear. I had a still. I made sour mash from corn and vodka from wheat. I have never made beer, but have drunk a bunch that friends made. It is better than what you get from the store. I like the British beer and ale .
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    A lot of the brewing grain I get comes out of MI/WI... Breiss http://www.brewingwithbriess.com/ For the common malts I buy 50 pound sacks because it is 1/3 cheaper than by the pound.

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