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Thread: Reloading for Dad's 1876 Winchester (Kings Improvement-3 in .45-75)

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    Reloading for Dad's 1876 Winchester (Kings Improvement-3 in .45-75)

    I put this mini-stage coach ammo box together for Dad (now 86) for his rifle last fall.
    Dad picked up the rifle in 1940 when he was 10 years old for $10.
    A little history of the rifle before I show the pictures, in his own words:
    "Serial # 57XXX, The rifle is King's Improvement, Patented March 20,1866 ....October 20, 1880. Round Barrel, Interior Brass Shell Feed and Extractor. with Lever Action. Rear fold down Elevated Sight. It is really in good shape for its age and has never been refinished. I bought this gun in the early 1940's at around 12 years old and used it as a youngster for deer hunting....at my Grandpa's Resort at Cass Lake, MN.

    During the second World War there were not any new firearms for sale. My Uncle Ed who was a traveling salesman bought it in Iowa from one of his customers before he was drafted into the Second World War. He use to take me deer hunting and put me in the woods somewhere on a log while he went off and tried to chase deer my way. I paid for it from the money I made at that early age by taking people out fishing from my Gramp's resort on Cass Lake. It cost me a whole $10.00 that was a lot of money for a kid in the 40's. So basically that is all the info I have on it."


    He hasn't shot it since the 50's but takes it out every year and gives it some TLC before putting it back into his dehumidified safe.

    So, I thought I'd reload some .45-75 Starline brass and 350 gr pills in black powder, low pressure loads, however I highly doubt he'll ever shoot these, it's more of a display than anything.


    First, photos of the rifle:



















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    And the process of making his BP loads for the 45-75. I picked up an inexpensive box at a thrift store as I know my Dad would never want a gift that I paid too much for. He was a Depression baby so he loves bargains! I used a drop tube as well as a compression die with a veggie wad, lubed 350 grain bullets.

    Annealing


    Identifying placement in the cedar insert


    Final product


    Comparison to .45ACP and .45-70


    "Generations" montage I made for the back of the box lid. Sons, fathers, grandfathers.


    Finished product with 45-75 bullet button on the lid





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    Your "Centennial Rifle" is in spectacularly good shape and your father is lucky to have a son like you.
    Very nice job on the box and the ammo.
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    Thank you sir! I'm very lucky to have a father like him! Still healthy and alive!

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    Mac...it's obvious that those rounds were made with 'TLC'! Picture perfect!
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    Very nice, great story.great rifle to.

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    Thank you gentlemen. It was a fun project!

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    Way Cool Big Mak:Ol Deuce
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    What a beautiful rifle and story.
    What a great gift for your father.
    its great to see that memories like this are cherished and not sold off.
    Well done all the way around.

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    ............A great story and a wonderful bunch of folks that aren't too common these days, mores the shame for all of us.

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    I really enjoyed this, thank you.
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    Let me join the chorus and say "thank you." It was a privilege to read this and see that fine old rifle. Bless you and your father, I hope he gets a chance to shoot it once more, if only to say "Hi" to the 10 year old boy who worked so hard for it.
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    Pretty awesome. I hope your dad shoots it at least once more in his lifetime.

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    I believe they go for around 20K these day's. I'd keep a harry eyeball on it if I were you.

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    Sweet gun/pix/story!!


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    Outstanding! Thanks for sharing the story!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rintinglen View Post
    Let me join the chorus and say "thank you." It was a privilege to read this and see that fine old rifle. Bless you and your father, I hope he gets a chance to shoot it once more, if only to say "Hi" to the 10 year old boy who worked so hard for it.
    I'll be out there in July. Might convince him of it and video tape too.

    Thank you Gents.

    Quick photo of Dad and I in a duck blind around 1970.
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    Every thing about your post is great . I mean everything. Thanks for posting.

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    Every thing about your post is great . I mean everything. Thanks for posting.

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