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    Cast boolits for Winchester 94

    Is there a mold made for boolits for Winchester 94? I have a model 94 "Ranger" purchased from Kmart in 2000. Seems all cast boolits engage the lands before the lever is closed. Removing the cartridge before firing it shows the lands marks on it.

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    30/30 moulds

    The Lyman 311041 and 311141 are purpose designed for the 30/30 and its very short lead. They weigh on average about 170 grains and shoot quite well in the Model 94 or any rifle with a similar chamber and lead (throat).

    There are several other designs or copies which reportedly also do well, although I've only had experience with the Lyman moulds.
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    Come on man, throw the dog a bone!
    What caliber???

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    Model 94? My crystal ball sez .30-30.



    I say 311041 by Lyman

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    My 74 vintage mod 94 and my old Marlin waffle top like Lee" s 170 grain or 150 grain sized 310 super accurate and super inexpensive !

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    I have a 30-30 Ranger and it likes a wide variety of boolits. Take a look at the Lyman mold chart and pick a 311 flat nose profile. I use Red Dot and while I don't have the mold numbers handy where I'm at right now, it likes a lighter weight 115 gr, 150 ish grain (my favorite) and a 175 ish grain. I don't push them hard and prefer to use plain base for my plinking. I size mine to .309 - tumble lube 'em in alox/paste wax, load 'em and they shoot very well - no issues with leading, etc.

    I have pushed them faster and I have several GC versions as well. Again, no issues with leading, etc.

    Refer to one of the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbooks and you'll find some mold numbers and a variety of powders/loads. Do a search on here and there should be a lot of threads on loading for the 20-20 from cat sneeze to full power. For me, the 30-30 is probably my most favorite rifle cartridge to load and shoot - lots of bullet weights available and loads to meet just about any need you might have from cans to critters - small and large.

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    Given its a "Ranger" M94 it's a safe bet it's a 30-30. I am a fan of the 311041 also as it was designed for the 30-30. Has worked for me since '68 in numerous M94s, Marlins and other rifles.
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    Given its a "Ranger" M94 it's a safe bet it's a 30-30.
    Yep. My assumption too. I don't think they were made in any calibre other than the 30/30, although I can't say that for certain.

    Removing the cartridge before firing it shows the lands marks on it.
    Light engraving of the bullet is a plus for accuracy with cast bullets.
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    My 94 has done good work with the Lee 113 fp and the RCBS 180 fp. The lee weighs 116 checked and the RCBS 195 with lube and check. Yes it engraves but it also shoots.
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    I use the lee 150 grain gas checked in my dads 94 and have never noticed them engaging the rifling. shoots fine and kills deer dead.

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    I like the nose engaging the rifling. [they put crimp grooves on them for a reason]
    the rcbs 30-150=180 and the lee 150=170 are all good bullets in the 30-30.
    I can't get groups under 2"s with the 311041 in any of my 30-30's
    it's all an educated guess,,,, till the trigger is pulled.

    this opinion brought to you by mister low-tech solution..

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    The 94 was made in at least 4 calibers from way back then.
    And mine for instance is 32-40.
    Then there was 38-55, 30-30 and 32SPL.

    So pardon my ignorance that i didnt just asume it was a 30-30.
    Winchester made umpteen comemorative 94 rifles in all sorts of calibers amongst them pistol calibers so i'm sorry i didnt recognise the Ranger as being 30-30.

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    Winchester made umpteen comemorative 94 rifles in all sorts of calibers amongst them pistol calibers so i'm sorry i didnt recognise the Ranger as being 30-30.
    Not to worry 17nut. I'll bet there were no Ranger rifles exported to Denmark. Probably just produced for the economy market in the USA.
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BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
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