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Thread: Mauser drops round while extracting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    In that case try 30-06 brass. Find a brand that fits then form those to .35 Whelen.

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    Just so happens these are formed to 35 already just need to get dies and projectiles.

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    Well now I'm getting somewhere I measured the various brass I have here and it will grip 0.4070 but not 0.3945 I am trying to figure what the smallest cross measure of rim size and extractor groove it will grip is then I can just base brass off of that in the future. It seems a lot of new brass is not made to max spec especially with most rifles being push feed it doesn't matter now. I believe that a deeper (smaller diameter) extractor ring might almost be advantageous with Saami and Rem style extractors.
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    sounds like the bolt face might be worn a bit..i have fixed mausers that were worn out on the bolt face.. you can either take a little metal off the extractor where it rides on the bolt to close the gap up a little if there is room, or in extreme situations the bolt face will have to be welded up and remachined to tighten it up.. i got a mauser i did this to. it was so loose that even by closing up the extractor gap it would just drop the round back in the chamber.. i had to weld up the face and put the bolt in my mill with a endmill the size of the rim of the cartridge cases i am using. rifle was worn as frack when i got it like it had a million rounds sent through it.. the way i got it setup now also turned it into a fully enclosed safety action. the cartridge ride pretty deep into the barrel when the bolt is closed and when the bolt is closed it is almost bottomed out on the barrel face and this fully encloses the cartridge case.. this supports the cartridge case all the way to the rim and makes everything a lot stronger with less chance of case rupture.. but i would try to close up the gap first by taking a little off the spring at the bolt face where it rides on the bolt..

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    I think all the extractors for Mausers are like the 98. Bolts may be different but extractor is the same. Correct me if I am misinformed.
    I have replaced min and it still drops rounds. One solution is to work it like a Mauser. Fast and hard.

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    My M-48 does this, replacing the extractor claw did not change the issue?, I'm convinced the it's the bolt face, there seems to be insufficient material to support the cartridge rim opposite the claw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiloh View Post
    I think all the extractors for Mausers are like the 98. Bolts may be different but extractor is the same. Correct me if I am misinformed.
    I have replaced min and it still drops rounds. One solution is to work it like a Mauser. Fast and hard.

    Shiloh
    "One solution is to work it like a Mauser. Fast and hard."


    Very true. Try to baby a Mauser, and they get pouty. Work it like a Mauser was designed to be operated, and a lot of problems are cured. I fully expect my ejected cases to go around five yards before hitting the ground.
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    I believe I have found the issue on mine, there is a west lip on the bolt where the dovetailed portion of the extractor fits in the bolt. When slid all the way back it holds tight. But push forward as if on the extraction stroke and it looses the tension that was there.
    Work it like a freight train and it seems to do a decent job.

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