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Thread: Trials and Tribulations With My Norwegian Krag

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    Trials and Tribulations With My Norwegian Krag

    I like Krags but my Norwegian in 6.6 X 55 has given me heart burn from the beginning. Four bullets, 3 lubes and three sizing dies and I now have a load that meets my needs, shooting clay pigeons at 50 and 100 yards. Bullets were either too small or would not fit the throat. My seating/crimp die would set larger nose diameter bullets back into the case at about .265". I worked with LatheSmith for a .268 sizing die and an M die plug and worked with Swede at NOE bullets for a suitable mold resulting in his 268-140GC mold. But my shell plate for my Dillon would not work with about half of the brass from Swede blanks. Luckily I still had a shell plate for 30-30, ground a small chamfer in each slot and now I can lost the Swede round on my Dillon like all of my ammunition.

    Now off to the races I thought but I used load data in my Lyman 45 and 50 loading manuals for similar bullet weight bullets and discovered the RPM limit very quickly. My Krag has a rate of twist of 1 in 7.5" like Swede rifles. With selected perfect bullets I could get OK groups at 50 yards but seldom could hit the target at 100. I wondered the load data and experimented with 2400 and Unique with the following results:
    2400 Results Velocity RPM 100yd
    11.7 gr 1417 ft/sec 136,000 Pie Plate sized
    12.5 gr 1467 ft/sec 141,000 Pie Plate Sized
    16.1 gr 1744 ft/sec 168,000 No Hits

    The 2400 velocity results are similar to the Lyman manuals

    Unique Results Velocity RPM 100 Yd
    7.7 gr 1228 ft/sec 118,000 about 3"
    9.5 gr 1411 ft/sec 135,000 Pie Plate Sized

    7 shot 50 yard group of the 7.7 gr Unique ( I quit when ahead)

    I can shoot the centers of clay pigeons at 50 yards with this load and hit them at 100 yards with little sight adjustment. I have a set of Williams peep sights on the rifle.

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    I also found that the loaded cartridge dimensions are .299" at the neck base and .297" at the case mouth and in my rifle the closer the better, over .300" and I have a tough time closing the bolt. I have not encountered that problem before so it was a learning experience.

    I am using Swede blank brass that cost me < $.029/round, just pull the wood bullet, pour out the powder, tumble and load then off to the range.

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    My only comments center around the Lyman results, what distance were they shooting at? and how did they get those velocities? I am happy with my load, results and low recoil and I can spend a day shooting those rounds for about the same as 22LR but far more satisfying when I hit the pigeon.
    Last edited by JMax; 07-25-2017 at 08:46 AM.

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    Shoot my Norwegian Krags with #266469 acww sized to .2675"dia w/Hornady GC done with homemade push thru sizer and straight Allox. 19.6 gr H4895 , same Swedish blank milsurp brass and I reload it with PMC Berdans from 2004. 1525 MV , 2MOA reliably , probably better

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    Tedly, mine was sporterized in its past with a 22" barrel and I suspect that a longer barrel with a slower powder will yield higher MV with good groups. I make my own gas checks and was able to get 3600 rounds of the blanks and to date I have now fired over 400 rounds w/o misfires etc and I am saving the brass. I have both PPU and S&B brass and had similar results but with the blank brass I am saving them for later.

    I tried that Lyman mold but the bullets dropped too small for my groove diameter was .2665" and is why I am sizing at .268".

    I tried a similar load as yours but with IMR4895 but was not happy with the groups.
    Last edited by JMax; 07-22-2017 at 09:19 AM.

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    With a twist rate of 7.5"..i believe most shooters find that keeping it under 1450FPS is the key to accuracy with this round..

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    I found with my rifle that 1400 ft/sec is too high a velocity but at 118,000 RPM or 1228 ft/sec lets me shoot clay pigeons at 100 yards to the point that I now shoot pigeon pieces so I am done, a fun low recoil load that is accurate for me to shoot clay pigeons with abandon at 100 yards with iron sights.

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    I actually follow a similar format. Once my loads are developed and bench shooting is through , I'll also shoot at clay pigeons at 50 and 100yds....my Grandson was liking the Swed M38 over the Krag....

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