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    This is a SSK style design:
    275 grains Wheel Weight Alloy
    As Cast Diameter: .432"
    72% meplat or .311"
    Nose Length .400"
    Bore Riding Length: .100"
    Bore Riding diameter: .424"
    Over All Length: .766
    Front Drive Band: .070"

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    Not a company, I put these together for you.

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    You can ask Tom at Accurate Molds to draw up anything you want if you give him some specifics. He will then add them to his catalog and ask if you want any changes etc. He works best by email and is very good at returning emails.

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    And since you are looking at a 295 grain mold possibility:

    This is a SSK style design:
    295 grains Wheel Weight Alloy
    As Cast Diameter: .432"
    72% meplat or .311"
    Nose Length .400"
    Bore Riding Length: .100"
    Bore Riding diameter: .424"
    Over All Length: .818
    Front Drive Band: .070"

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    I have a 320JDJ that I got from SSK years ago. It was JD's first design.
    We Know Mass Cannot Be Weighed But It Has Newtonian Weight And That Is Derived From Kilograms And Kilograms Can Be Converted to Pounds. But, Still Mass Cannot Be Weighed. But How is the kilograms obtained? Can Kilograms Be Weighed? Evidentally Yes It Can. But, Still Mass Cannot Be Weighed So Kilograms Must Not Exist. Funny Isn't It.
    One good thing out of this the next time I'm at the doctors and they want to weigh me I'll tell them mass cannot be weighed.

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    Accurate 43-270L is an outstanding bullet for the 44 however the gun, the powder, the primer, the shooter, the conditions, the target, the shooting style, physics and gravity all impact accuracy. Think about the variables when shooting a gun anyone single thing or combination of things can impact the impact. Consistency is key think about that and all the factors that comprise the fight of the bullet.

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    If the bullet matches the gun and load it "should" shoot well.
    For longer ranges Keith found the longer nose[bullet] to work better.
    I would suggest , unless you are hunting, to use the original round nose bullet.
    Many have found the RN bullets to be accurate at extended ranges.
    After all the 44 rus and 44 spec made there rep as target guns with RN bullets.

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    I don't know about the most accurate but Lyman 429421 will shoot some good groups if it fits your guns throats. It is my go to bullet. In 44 special I love it with power pistol.

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    thanks RobS for drawing those up! do you have some sort of program especially for bullet design? and also you said the 295gr TC from accurate was too long for the superBlackhawk, do you know if your design(the 295gr) is short enough?
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    The Ruger Blackhawk 44mag will take a bit longer nose than .400" in length however I personally would stay at this length just in case there is boolit jump with heavy loads. Also at .400" nose length the cylinder gap flash from the burning powder won't effect the nose of the adjacent bullets in the cylinder. The bullets I sketched are at the .400" so you would be good in a Ruger SBH cylinder.

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    oh ok cool, so I just save that scetch, send it to accurate when I am ready, and he can make the mold from that? that's pretty awesome! thanks, I really appreciate it. oh, will it cost more than getting a design from the catalogue since it is custom and he hasn't made one yet?
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    Yes and also save the additional information underneath the pic. Actually if you just send the written informations that is really all Tom at accurate molds needs.

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    There is always the H&G #503 as well which is the Keith before Lyman/Ideal changed things with the 429421 was my understanding.

    There is a group buy for that one right now:

    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...03-clone-rerun

    You can't do better than Mihec mould in my opinion.

    Personally I am not an SWC lover but then I don't shoot handguns. My .44's are shot from my Marlin 1894. I have the H&G #503 which is 258 grs. solid and had to do a bunch of work to my Marlin to get it to feed but in the end it worked well and so far has proven to shoot somewhat more accurately than anything else. The runner up is the Mihec 434640 (clone of the Lyman 429640) at 270 grs. solid. It is an RNFP which I prefer.

    Accurate will make what you want if it isn't in their catalogue. If you have a sample, design or even photo Tom will make it to the size and weight you want. Accurate Molds are equal to Mihec again in my opinion. Both cast perfectly to spec. I have both and a friend has an Accurate mould as well and both of ours cast exactly to spec within about 0.0005" which is astonishing!

    Accurate shows a TC 265 gr. design here:

    http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_...=43-265C-D.png

    and 275 gr. design here:

    http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_...=43-275D-D.png

    both of which appear to be similar to SSK designs. I am sure Tom will make you an SSK design in whatever weight you ask for if you want one.

    Different strokes but that's what makes the world go round!

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    after I realized the 295gr acc TC didn't have a crimp groove I saw the 275d, I really like that design, but I think when the time comes I am going to have tom make the 295 that Rob.S designed for me, its a really good take on what I had in my head. Rob.s did you say if I order something unique, like your boolit, that's not from the catalogue, is it going to cost more than if I ordered one from the catalogue? thanks again!!!-Travis
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    You can ask Tom at Accurate Molds to design what you want at no additional cost.

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    429421 No more, no less. If you can't get it done with that, forget it.
    OK folks, there is only two ways to do this. My way or my other way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roysha View Post
    429421 No more, no less. If you can't get it done with that, forget it.
    I 2nd that .
    IT AINT what ya shoot--its how ya shoot it

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    If you can't get it done with the 429421 forget it. Get what done? I agree with groo all things considered, my RN 240 GR. 6 cavity is a dandy.

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    Oops, Lee

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    Purely from an accuracy standpoint, the 429-383 RN, sort of an overgrown 358-311, can out shoot most anything else that comes down the trail in a 44. It does not rate as a hunting or self-defense boolit, but when it comes to grouping, it can be very gregarious. In the 44 special, it likes 6.5 grains of Unique or 5.6 grains of Red Dot.
    For a general purpose boolit, I prefer the 250 grain boolits similar to the 429-421.
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check