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    I don't want or need one, but I want to see ALL the hoops a person has to jump through to own one gone! As anti gun as the UK is their citizens can own them and many there see it as improper not to equip their arms with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runfiverun View Post
    if they were OTC I would buy several.
    actually I would make several.
    Exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky45 View Post
    Why don't you try and ask the ATF if its legal to build one in your basement. Without that "stamp" you're as illegal as a unregistered handgun.
    By "tube" I meant a physical tube made out wood and sound deadners that doesn't doesn't attach to the firearm. These are completely legal and a lot less money then a silencer. People make them out of barrels and all types of things.

    What's an unregistered handgun? Guess you live in a state where they know exactly what you own.

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    I would be on the #2 or #3 list.

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    My choice is #3

    This is what I posted in the poll topic:

    I voted # 3(sold like accessories) & the price has to come way down or I would build(would have built) the ones I wanted.

    IMO... They should not cost the amount of a firearm itself & I see no need for a background check, since if someone was to be buying one, it is likely they already have had a background check for the firearm they are using & are going to put it on.
    If they are criminals already and have a firearm, the suppressor is just another crime currently & the criminals will not care. So, it won't likely matter if they are just an accessory either.

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    #3 here, back in the 20's and 30's a decent gun cost 20 to 30$. A decent suppressor cost buck and a half to 3 dollars. That seems fair to me.

    Nowdays guns are 250 to 1k but I will never pay 250$. Ain't happening.

    If legal I might buy a few 8 dollar adapters and 7 dollar oil filters and put them on guns which are threaded.

    Right now that would buy me a 10 year hitch in a federal prison, so thanks but no thanks. Don't need it.

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    When they're taken out of the nfa category, I'll be standing in line, as well as copying other's home built designs just to see if I can do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragon813gt View Post
    By "tube" I meant a physical tube made out wood and sound deadners that doesn't doesn't attach to the firearm. These are completely legal and a lot less money then a silencer. People make them out of barrels and all types of things.

    What's an unregistered handgun? Guess you live in a state where they know exactly what you own.
    Every gun I own is "registered". By that I mean it's been purchased by me and a 4473 filled out at the time of purchase. NO WUT I MEEN VERN?

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    I think we can all agree; in the context of this thread, silencer or suppressor are interchangeable words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bedbugbilly View Post
    uhhhh . . . if I was Sicilian and got a job with the Mob?
    check with the Clinton's I think they are hiring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyWarrior View Post
    What MADE me a buyer (three) was COMMON SENSE. Guys who send 1000s on a gun object to buying a suppressor. (They are NOT silencers !!!!) "Dumb-de-dumb-dum"
    You better correct the inventor (Hiram Percy Maxim) who trademarked the term Silencer and the ATFE who use it in all their regulations - suppressor came from other companies who couldn't use the term SILENCER.

    Sort of like Xerox and Kleenex are proprietary
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky45 View Post
    Every gun I own is "registered". By that I mean it's been purchased by me and a 4473 filled out at the time of purchase. NO WUT I MEEN VERN?
    You must have missed out on some very good buys on used guns in private purchase (no 4473)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Houndog View Post
    I don't want or need one, but I want to see ALL the hoops a person has to jump through to own one gone! As anti gun as the UK is their citizens can own them and many there see it as improper not to equip their arms with them.
    je suis charlie

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky45 View Post
    Why don't you try and ask the ATF if its legal to build one in your basement. Without that "stamp" you're as illegal as a unregistered handgun.
    You do know that if you live in a "free" state you don't need to register your handgun with anyone unless you purchase from a FFL holder who is federally required to do the 4473 and background check.

    But if I purchase from a private party - NO Paperwork or checks are required.

    Can I ask if you moved from Kalipornia or New Yorkistan to Kansas or just where you got your idea's about gun registration and silencer legality?

    http://gun.laws.com/state-gun-laws/kansas-gun-laws
    Firearm laws in Kansas do not make it necessary for individuals to register their firearms. Furthermore, Kansas firearm laws do not require the acquisition of a permit in order to purchase guns.
    As for building a stationary noise abatement device on my range Totally Legal
    - it's not attached to a firearm (like the oil filter in your car that isn't either)
    and it's not easily portable. ATFE doesn't give a rip.







    Last edited by Artful; 07-16-2017 at 02:52 PM.
    je suis charlie

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    Thomas Jefferson Quotations:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artful View Post
    You must have missed out on some very good buys on used guns in private purchase (no 4473)
    You'd think so, now wouldn't you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bedbugbilly View Post
    uhhhh . . . if I was Sicilian and got a job with the Mob?
    Oh Billy. That's just hurtful. A lot of us Sicilians are actually freelancers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by therealhitman View Post
    Oh Billy. That's just hurtful. A lot of us Sicilians are actually freelancers.
    Small Businessmen are the back bone of this country.
    je suis charlie

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    It probably should say "What would make you ANOTHER silencer buyer" I own a number of them. Paid my $200 per. Paid my $200 for each machine gun. Paid my $200 for each SBR. Paid my $5 for the AOW.
    I am not against silencers - I AM against these so called "arm braces"......arm braces my a**. It is the way to get around the SBR rules.
    THAT is what frosts me.
    Collector and shooter of guns with selector switches and threaded barrels. Collector of suppressors, SBR's, AOW's and SBS's. Lead and brass scrounger. Never too much brass, lead or components in inventory! Always looking to win beauty contests with my reloads.

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    Why are you against anything? The fracturing of gun owners is what makes us weak. Yes, the braces skirt the law. But it's an unconstitutional law to begin w/. I see no difference between the brace and a bullet button. Both were designed to get around stupid laws.

    I have a few SBRs. The braces are nice but the firearms don't handle like a true SBR. While I don't like paying the tax, at all. It's worth it when it comes to SBRs.

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    For me to get a "silencer," all that'd have to change is the price. But with most internals being made of titanium, and quite craftily formed at certain angles, etc., I doubt they'll ever be a dime a dozen. I once didn't want to be on any more "lists" than I probably already was on, so that was another factor. But now .... I've assumed I'm on enough lists that one more won't make any real difference. Now, it's just the price that matters any more. (sigh!) And I doubt that'll change much or very rapidly. Well ..... OK ...... I've lived this long without one, and I guess I can make it to the end without one, but .... one sure could be nice ..... and interesting as well!

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