I don't want or need one, but I want to see ALL the hoops a person has to jump through to own one gone! As anti gun as the UK is their citizens can own them and many there see it as improper not to equip their arms with them.
I don't want or need one, but I want to see ALL the hoops a person has to jump through to own one gone! As anti gun as the UK is their citizens can own them and many there see it as improper not to equip their arms with them.
By "tube" I meant a physical tube made out wood and sound deadners that doesn't doesn't attach to the firearm. These are completely legal and a lot less money then a silencer. People make them out of barrels and all types of things.
What's an unregistered handgun? Guess you live in a state where they know exactly what you own.
I would be on the #2 or #3 list.
My choice is #3
This is what I posted in the poll topic:
I voted # 3(sold like accessories) & the price has to come way down or I would build(would have built) the ones I wanted.
IMO... They should not cost the amount of a firearm itself & I see no need for a background check, since if someone was to be buying one, it is likely they already have had a background check for the firearm they are using & are going to put it on.
If they are criminals already and have a firearm, the suppressor is just another crime currently & the criminals will not care. So, it won't likely matter if they are just an accessory either.
#3 here, back in the 20's and 30's a decent gun cost 20 to 30$. A decent suppressor cost buck and a half to 3 dollars. That seems fair to me.
Nowdays guns are 250 to 1k but I will never pay 250$. Ain't happening.
If legal I might buy a few 8 dollar adapters and 7 dollar oil filters and put them on guns which are threaded.
Right now that would buy me a 10 year hitch in a federal prison, so thanks but no thanks. Don't need it.
When they're taken out of the nfa category, I'll be standing in line, as well as copying other's home built designs just to see if I can do it.
When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."
I think we can all agree; in the context of this thread, silencer or suppressor are interchangeable words.
je suis charlie
It is better to live one day as a LION than a dozen days as a Sheep.
Thomas Jefferson Quotations:
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
je suis charlie
It is better to live one day as a LION than a dozen days as a Sheep.
Thomas Jefferson Quotations:
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
je suis charlie
It is better to live one day as a LION than a dozen days as a Sheep.
Thomas Jefferson Quotations:
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
You do know that if you live in a "free" state you don't need to register your handgun with anyone unless you purchase from a FFL holder who is federally required to do the 4473 and background check.
But if I purchase from a private party - NO Paperwork or checks are required.
Can I ask if you moved from Kalipornia or New Yorkistan to Kansas or just where you got your idea's about gun registration and silencer legality?
http://gun.laws.com/state-gun-laws/kansas-gun-laws
As for building a stationary noise abatement device on my range Totally LegalFirearm laws in Kansas do not make it necessary for individuals to register their firearms. Furthermore, Kansas firearm laws do not require the acquisition of a permit in order to purchase guns.
- it's not attached to a firearm (like the oil filter in your car that isn't either)
and it's not easily portable. ATFE doesn't give a rip.
Last edited by Artful; 07-16-2017 at 02:52 PM.
je suis charlie
It is better to live one day as a LION than a dozen days as a Sheep.
Thomas Jefferson Quotations:
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
je suis charlie
It is better to live one day as a LION than a dozen days as a Sheep.
Thomas Jefferson Quotations:
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
It probably should say "What would make you ANOTHER silencer buyer" I own a number of them. Paid my $200 per. Paid my $200 for each machine gun. Paid my $200 for each SBR. Paid my $5 for the AOW.
I am not against silencers - I AM against these so called "arm braces"......arm braces my a**. It is the way to get around the SBR rules.
THAT is what frosts me.
Collector and shooter of guns and other items that require a tax stamp, Lead and brass scrounger. Never too much brass, lead or components in inventory! Always looking to win beauty contests with my reloads.
Why are you against anything? The fracturing of gun owners is what makes us weak. Yes, the braces skirt the law. But it's an unconstitutional law to begin w/. I see no difference between the brace and a bullet button. Both were designed to get around stupid laws.
I have a few SBRs. The braces are nice but the firearms don't handle like a true SBR. While I don't like paying the tax, at all. It's worth it when it comes to SBRs.
For me to get a "silencer," all that'd have to change is the price. But with most internals being made of titanium, and quite craftily formed at certain angles, etc., I doubt they'll ever be a dime a dozen. I once didn't want to be on any more "lists" than I probably already was on, so that was another factor. But now .... I've assumed I'm on enough lists that one more won't make any real difference. Now, it's just the price that matters any more. (sigh!) And I doubt that'll change much or very rapidly. Well ..... OK ...... I've lived this long without one, and I guess I can make it to the end without one, but .... one sure could be nice ..... and interesting as well!
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |