I tried .359 sized 147gr bullets in my factory barrel but got horrible leading, it was only tumble lubed though. Never had any success with that... I since got an aftermarket barrel and now I size to .356 and lube with felix lube + extra carnauba. Did 50 rounds last weekend and there was zero leading, shiny bore infact.
I should try these in the factory barrel as well to see if they work as well in that. Still the new barrel stays, it's threaded for a reason
If I were you, I would try the .356 147s in the factory barrel for sure.
"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you." Joe Heller
Well I can now report sucess with my G19 and G37.
The boolits need to be both oversized by .001 to .0015 and water dropped wheel weights. I suspect that my WW is lacking in elements that it should have as it doesn't get to be more than about 12 BNH after water dropping.
But, it will then do the job and shoot accurately and without leading.
I'm a happy camper!
Cat
Cogito, ergo armatum sum.
(I think, therefore I'm armed.)
I loaded some store bought 147gr BBTC that were supposed to be "hard cast" (I think they were .356 diameter) for my gen 4 G17 a couple years back. Powder was Titegroup, around 5grs. I loaded them hotter and they keyholed at 25yds. Don't remember leading being a problem, just poor accuracy. Never bought anymore and switched to plated bullets. They were more accurate and cost the same. Now I've gotten into casting my own and got a G27 last fall. My only regret about buying it was I didn't get a mold at the same time. Now none are available anywhere! I will shoot lead in my Glock and I also will keep it clean. If you use your brain and take care of your stuff like you should, you won't have issues.
I agree 100%.Originally Posted by ROGER4314
Glock says no cast boolits in their barrels for a reason....why tempt fate?
~Charlie U.
If you haven't done it don't knock it.
"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you." Joe Heller
I like the Springfield xd better. More natural point of aim no leading very accurate for me.
That something can be done in contradiction to the manufacturer's specific warning does not make it a sound practice. Between, the manufacturer, Glock, and a post in a thread, I tend to stick with the more knowledgeable source. An aftermarket barrel makes sense.
Maybe you misread me.....I didn't knock anyone or call anyone stupid.If you haven't done it don't knock it.
I was simply agreeing with ROGER4314 in saying I will not do it.
If you and others choose to act in direct contradiction to manufacturers recommendations that is entirely your choice. Good luck with that.
~Charlie U.
How many firearms do you reload for? I'm thinking maybe 10% of the current firearm manufacturers recommend reloading for their products. That's where I'm coming from.
"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you." Joe Heller
Not one of my manuals say reloading is O.K.How many firearms do you reload for? I'm thinking maybe 10% of the current firearm manufacturers recommend reloading for their products. That's where I'm coming from.
As you can see I listen well...
Touche'.........you make a sound point with that one........I'm thinking maybe 10% of the current firearm manufacturers recommend reloading for their products. That's where I'm coming from.
~Charlie U.
Exactly! You have some manufacturers that make competition guns and they expect handloads to be used. Bill Wilson used to name the loads he used, I assume his son is now OK with handloads in his guns. Nosler and Remington make reloading components so they should be good with the practice. Many firearm manuals say NOT to use reloaded ammo of any kind......"you spends your money and you takes your chances".
"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you." Joe Heller
Have a question to the folks shooting their own cast boolits in their glock 40's and 45 acp. What do you size both of these too? I've had problems with my g23 leading pretty bad on 25 rds and sized to .401. Same lead mix in my 45 acp bullets that I sized to .451 and have shoot about 300 rds with no problems until today. Possible some of these may have measured .450. Anybody using .452 with good results?
For my 40 S&W Glocks (22, 23, 24, and 35) I load 3.5 Bullseye under a 175 SWC sized .401 and 3.8 Clays under a 200 SWC sized .452 for my 21. Some guns will not run these light loads 100% right out of the box (my Gen4 35 was balky when new).
"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you." Joe Heller
I've shot cast from two calibers in Glocks: 9MM & 45 GAP. Both required one to two thousandth over bore and water dropping. Or they would lead excellently.
But others are getting no leading without hardening, so results vary.
As per usual, each firearm is a rule unto itself and your best results will come from listening to it.
Cat
Cogito, ergo armatum sum.
(I think, therefore I'm armed.)
Well I had been shooting my g30 with no leading issues until at a IDPA match this past Sunday. Had bullets tumbling at 5yrds making jagged holes. All my bullets are run thru a Lee .451 sizer that I'd had no problems with but Monday night I got to suspecting it so I checked 90 bullets I had run thru the day before. All measured .450 and that's what my G30's barrel slugged out to. Looked into the die and it was crudded up with lead and lube, can't remember the last time I had cleaned it.
So now I about to load some .452's that I just cast to see how they will run thru my Glock, the sizer is freshly cleaned.
Oh, my .401 die was even worse!
Well that's been tested and it was not much better. I did not expect it to at .356" which is for a match barrel. I should try it with some .359s but I would have to slather on the lube on an uncalibrated bullet by hand for that.
Most of my 9mm Glocks do well (fairly accurate and very little to zero leading) with a .356 147 FN and 3.5 Unique.
"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you." Joe Heller
How many of you are successfully shooting softer lead in your 9mm Glocks? By softer I mean 8-10 bhn. I don't have a Glock but am thinking about getting one. A 125-130 grain boolit at 900-950 fps sounds about right to me, and I would like to be able to do it with air-cooled 50/50 alloy, which for me runs 8-9 bhn.
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