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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer in NH View Post
    Still didn't say anything directly about 30-30. 🙁


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    Here is a 30-30 load I like

    5.5 grains 170 RNFP around 1050 fps and accurate
    What a fun load to shoot
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    Whay do you reload with Red Dot?

    I'm the odd man out. Never used and never bought any Red Dot. I do use Green Dot. It's an under utilized pistol powder. Plenty of loads listed in older manuals. Alliant powder availability has always been horrible around here so it's one of the main reasons I never bothered to try it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Blue View Post
    It's only the last year that you could even buy Red Dot; most the last 8 years it was nowhere to be found. It would show up and get sold out in no time at all.

    C.E. Harris had an article about 13 grains of RD as a reduced charge in almost any bolt action rifle. No recoil and less noise. If you had to use only one powder, RD would be it.
    Location depend for sure. it has been available off and on in MT in 8 4 and 1 lb jugs.
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    "Whay" = what/why. What: everything. Why: because it works in everything.

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    This is why I asked, any more?
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    Nope.

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    I use Red Dot in just about everything, rifle & pistol. Ed Harris' article in the military rifle section helped me immensely. 13 grains with the RCBS 165 SIL is the cat's meow in my 1903 Springfield(30-06), as is 18.5 grains of 2400. It's more flexible than I had ever imagined, and I use a lot of it.

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    45 ACP. It is almost ideal there, with the charges used being just large enough to meter decently through my Pro Auto Disk measures without throwing squibs, which is a problem with smaller charges for smaller calibers.

    Good bulk prevents double charges and capable of producing standard velocities to a bit above. Permissible book charges produce up to 910 fps or so in a five inch with 230 grain bullets and target to 1000 fps levels with 200 SWC's. Leaves little soot. I prefer 820-850 fps with lead 230s, 900+ fps with "full power" 200s and 800 fps with practice and target 200s. This lower charge still cycles 1911s with small radius FP stops equipped with 16 lb recoil and 23 lb mainsprings and my stiffly sprung 45 Shield and P97.

    And 12 gauge shotshell from 7/8 to 1 1/8 ounce of course.

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    45, 9mm and 38 spl

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    Guess I forgot to mention shotshells also. I am running 21 grains of Red Dot below a TP 15 wad from BPI and 9 .30 caliber #1 buckshot from a sharpshooter mold. Those 9 self stack, then a dipper of corn meal filler/buffer, an overshot card punched from Lactaid milk jug, and a solid crimp. Overshot keeps the buffer from leaking and without it the crimp was a smidge too low.

    Only takes a few minutes to punch out enough circles for a box of buckshot with a punch, a 4x4 on end and a big rubber mallet.

    It is more of a lighter tactical buckshot load not a heavy hitting 00 with Longshot or bluedot. But I had issues getting 9 00 buck to work well with the wads I have.

    Those are loaded in new Fiocchi clear hulls that were a dime ea, primed. Cheaper than buying used hulls IMO. Birdshot I mostly put up in Rio Blue hulls also primed that at the time were 9 cents each, 9 $ per bag of 100. I admit I stocked up a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostHawk View Post
    Guess I forgot to mention shotshells also. I am running 21 grains of Red Dot below a TP 15 wad from BPI and 9 .30 caliber #1 buckshot from a sharpshooter mold. Those 9 self stack, then a dipper of corn meal filler/buffer, an overshot card punched from Lactaid milk jug, and a solid crimp. Overshot keeps the buffer from leaking and without it the crimp was a smidge too low.

    Only takes a few minutes to punch out enough circles for a box of buckshot with a punch, a 4x4 on end and a big rubber mallet.

    It is more of a lighter tactical buckshot load not a heavy hitting 00 with Longshot or bluedot. But I had issues getting 9 00 buck to work well with the wads I have.

    Those are loaded in new Fiocchi clear hulls that were a dime ea, primed. Cheaper than buying used hulls IMO. Birdshot I mostly put up in Rio Blue hulls also primed that at the time were 9 cents each, 9 $ per bag of 100. I admit I stocked up a few.
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    Red Dot is my target load in a Nagant revolver with trimmed 32-20 cases (1.25") after they've been run through Lee's "Nagant" dies. 2.1 grains under Hornady's 90 grain LSWC seated down to the shoulder on the boolit gives best accuracy from my 1944 Nagant with recoil and report like a 22LR. No other powder/boolit combo I've tried equals this one for accuracy in my particular handgun.
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    I used it in 25-06 with a Lyman 90 gr Fpgc for a time.

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    I have used Red Dot for target shotshells for years before Alliant powders became all but unobtainable so I switched to 700x and have not looked back. RD is a good powder in handgun loads and I still have some that I use it in but now my shotguns burn 700x. I also have used and like Red Dot's cheaper brother Promo as it cannot be beat for the lowest cost per round. I mostly use Unique for my cast bullet rifle rounds.
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    12 gauge 1 1/8 oz; 20 gauge 7/8 oz, All straight walled rimmed cartridge with RB or lightest weight bullets for plinking, pests.

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    I like Ed Harris' "The Load" but I have another one: 9 grains of Red Dot with standard weight for caliber cast boolits in anything larger than .30-30. Actually it works in .30-30 but only with boolits 155 grains or less.

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    4.2 gr of Red Dot and H&G 68 gives me 2" groups at 50 yards from sandbags with my Les Baer Bullseye model. I see no reason to switch! I use 3.7 gr for my Timed and Rapid fire loads.

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    For pure accuracy in a 44 special, try a 429-383 over 4.5 grains of red dot. I have not found a more accurate combination, at least at 50 yards or less.
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    Because I can.
    Because it is easy on my wallet.
    Because it lets me punch paper for pennys.
    Because it is easy on my shoulder.
    Because I like the smell of burned Red Dot in the morning.
    Because I have enough of it I don't have to worry about running out any time soon.
    And because I can.

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check