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    8mm French, made from 32-20's. Got a WFN mold from LBT about 25 years ago.
    Would love to have a rifle chambered for this ".33 Special".

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    I'll go with the 30 Herrett
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    My local gun shop makes me feel like I'm weird for wanting a target gun in 3006...

    They told me 308 was more common. I'm standing there thinking" oh good, my lifetime supply of 06 cases are for nothing"

    And then i come on here and realize some people just don't understand.
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    Up at the cabelas in louisville, they have a winchester 86 in 33 winchester, I could surely love it... I just cant come up with 2k bucks for the purchase of such.

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    There's a soft spot in my heart for the .303 British. It was the first rifle cartridge I loaded myself.
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    Obsolete means the rounds are not longer in production. Obsolescent means the rounds are on their way to becoming obsolete. Most of the rounds mentioned in this thread are not obsolete as loaded cartridges and brass can still be purchased.

    That said, my favorite truly obsolete round is the 25 Remington. I owned both a Remington 14 pumpgun and a Remington 30S in this chamberings and they were wonderful rifles. I don't think ammo has been produced since the 40s or 50s.
    Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. Your mileage may vary.

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    303 Brit, 7.7 Jap, 8 Mauser, 45 ACP

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    Well, since I'm shooting Montana gophers out to 200 yards this week in Central Montana with a 22 Honet, I guess it's my favorite obsolete cartridge this week. Who knows what next week will bring?
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    25-20WCF and 38-55 both in Marlins, one old, the other not as much. One is my favorite small game rifle, the other my newest cast boolit hunting rig

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    CharGar is correct. So I'll go with .219 Zipper and .43 Mauser. And guys; the .45 ACP is more popular today than it has ever been!

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    Where to start: 43 Mauser, 35 Winchester, 33 Winchester 22 Hi-power, 250 Savage 455 Webley, 38 S&W

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    I don't know how "obsolete" they are but I do enjoy loading 38 Colt Short and Long - just for the "history" of them. I load quite a few of the Colt Shorts (Starline brass) with such boolits as from the 358-242 (120 ish grain) or the 94 ish grain from the same mold (I have both). Easy on powder - a couple of grains o Red Dot and it's a fun cartridge out of my Smith 3" Model 36.

    I've loaded both (Short & Long) with BP and shot from my Ruger NV or Uberti Bisley - fun to play with.

    I have everything to reload the 32-20 (32 WCF) but just haven't gotten around to it as I'm still looking for a decent vintage revolver in that caliber - would love to have a single shot rifle in 32-20.

    "historic cartridges" just have a great appeal to me and I appreciate those who continue to reload them and keep the "old girls" barking!

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    40-70SS , 40-90-2 5/8 necked, 25/30/32 Remington (luckily I have a bucket of new 30REM brass) most anything odd is appealing.

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    Stevens 25-21
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.25-21_Stevens

    20 or 21gr FFg black powder
    From Sharpe's book:

    8.0/2400/60-gr. metal-cased/ 1527 fps/ 10.5K PSI
    11.0/2400/60-gr. MC/ 2036 fps/ 18.0k PSI
    13.0/2400/60-gr. MC/2370 fps/ 29.6K PSI (Max or near-max)
    6.0/2400/86-gr SP/0.450" seating depth/953 fps/ 9.1 K PSI
    10.0/2400/86-gr SP/0.450" SD/1673 fps/ 18k PSI
    12.0/2400/86-gr SP/0.450" SD/200 fps/29.4K "Strong rifles only"
    5.5/Unique/86-gr lead/0.450" SD/1525 fps

    From The Breech-loading Single-shot Rifle:

    5.0/Unique/Lyman 88-gr. #257464, breech-seated ahead of case/blotting paper wad in case.
    8.0/2400/rest same as above.
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    .22 Savage HiPower, 5.6x35R (I just use Hornet neck sizing dies), .22 Maximum Lovell (obsolete and a wildcat too- double whammy), .310 Cadet, .303 Savage. I don't consider .30-40 to be obsolete- since I've had a lifetime supply of brass since long ago I wasn't even aware that brass was hard to get.

    Sussing out obsolete cartridges is way more fun than having the world handed to you via shooting "modern" readily available stuff!

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    The 41 Swiss. 11MM French two odd balls that i have to reform brass. Another odd ball is the 8mm Siamese.

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    303 savage
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    I 'Wildcat' CF versions of the Stevens .25 Long RF cartridge and some longer and shorter versions. ".25-10-67" would have been the BP era Designation for the 1.125" case length round using a .250" diameter Bullet.
    Other case Lengths are: .930"; 1.024", 1.055", 1.250", and 1.350".


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    I've always favored the 222 and the 22 Hornet that I've shot. The 222 I've developed loads for my boy's gun (Rem 700), what a joy. The Hornet (or K-Hornet) is another joy to shoot and load for. Of those that I haven't shot or loaded for would like to go with a 25-20 and a 50-70. But wouldn't turn down any gun to shoot.
    Rob

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check