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    Shotgun help needed

    Friend brought me a Western Field Deluxe, 20 gauge, marked sold by Montomery Wards.
    Model number on the action says Model 50.
    This has been in a shoe box un-assembled for 6-7 years and he wanted me to put it back together.
    I got it put back together but I am not sure if the lifter that moves the shell from the magazine to the chamber is working right.
    I can NOT find a diagram for this model anywhere. Similar models are Stevens 520/620, but the guts are slightly different
    in they show a spring to help the lifter move the shell. This action has no provision for any spring.
    These are a take down model designed by Browning, and made for all the differing hardware stores/ retailers, so no real clue who may
    have made it.
    Anybody have a cartoon for a Western Field Model 50 20 gauge?

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    FYI, according to the well-known Store Brand Cross-Reference List:

    The Western Field Model 50 is a store brand Marlin/Glenfield Model 60 .22LR auto-loader.

    The Western Field Model 30, however, is a Savage Model 520.









    Your friend's shotgun needs a lifter spring (part #22, above), which is a leaf spring that bears on the underside of the lifter w/o any visible means of attachment.

    Since you evidently don't have that spring, the original has most likely either gone walk-about, or had the leaf snapped off it's rear/base end.


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    There is a whole list of shotguns under Western Field at Numrich parts. No model 50, but a whole series of 520, 530 etc. Possible light strike on the #?

    Google is your friend, good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pietro View Post
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    The Western Field Model 50 is a store brand Marlin/Glenfield Model 60 .22LR auto-loader.









    Your friend's shotgun needs a lifter spring (part #22, above), which is a leaf spring that bears on the underside of the lifter w/o any visible means of attachment.

    Since you evidently don't have that spring, the original has most likely either gone walk-about, or had the leaf snapped off it's rear/base end.


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    Numerichs nomenclature is wrong, this is MARKED ON THE ACTION Model 50 and it is is a 20 gauge.
    Youtube videos on the Savage 520 does show the lifter spring you mention, on pin -removable from one side.
    This one has no pin, or provision for it. I do think there is supposed to be a spring in there like you said,but no way to retain it
    seems weird?
    This gun is very close to the 520, but there is some internal differences.
    I wonder what the chances of the 520 spring working?
    Cant be very much guess I'll order one and see if I can figure out how it stays in

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostHawk View Post
    There is a whole list of shotguns under Western Field at Numrich parts. No model 50, but a whole series of 520, 530 etc. Possible light strike on the #?

    Google is your friend, good luck.
    Google has been worthless on this one

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    Here's a very good video, hope this is the one.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg6XLH4GOpc

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    I've watched that one and it is close but this one is different.
    i sure there is a spring missing. this actin however does not have that hole that
    the pin in the end of the spring goes in.
    On Numerichs website there is 2 different springs, early and late, and they dont have either one

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    Success!
    I found the spring in the box it came in, slid all the way under one of the glued flaps!
    And the hole for the spring was indeed there after I dug out my magnifiers and dug the goobers out of it
    thanks for the help folks, it appears this one is a Stevens 520 A

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