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    22 Spitfire/5.7 Johnson

    Anyone form these?????
    Friend has a M1 Carbine in this caliber.
    Want to see if I can form some cases for him.
    He has the dies, but can't find the so far.

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    I have formed a few of these by just running once fired 30 carbine cases into an RCBS 5.7 Johnson die using sizing wax.

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    Same here, you do have to make sure of the proper headspace on these. I do not load them as hot as some of the data suggests and am happy with the lighter loads.
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    We stock properly headstamped brass for the 5.7. 25.00 per box
    http://shop.reedsammo.com/57-Johnson...hnsonbrass.htm
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    Mind sharing your load.
    I got the rifle and die set from my friend.
    Cleaning some shells now.
    Die set also came with the form and trim dies.



    Quote Originally Posted by hicard View Post
    Same here, you do have to make sure of the proper headspace on these. I do not load them as hot as some of the data suggests and am happy with the lighter loads.

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    I use 7 grs of 2400 which gives 1821 fps and 295 fpe out of an 18" barrel @ 1262 psi. Quickloads goes up to 12 grs @ 2861 fps and 727 fpe @ 37236 psi. What powder are you using, maybe I can get some loads worked up for you on Quickloads. 46412 psi is the max for the cartridge. 13 grs of Lil'gun looks good to start at 2703 fps and 649 fpe and 28121 psi. Might have to give that one a try.
    Last edited by hicard; 06-28-2017 at 01:08 PM.
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    I'm going to try 12, 13, 14 of IMR4227.
    Maybe some 2400 later.
    Need to find more 40gr or 45gr bullets.

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    Sounds good abunaitoo.
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    Shot it this Sunday.
    Powder was I4227. 12, 13,14.
    45gr heads of unknown brand.
    50yds only.
    All loads shot about the same. 1 to 2 after adjusting the sights, and tightening the stock screws.
    I'm not sure if 14 is to much or not, but had two shell blow out.
    Could have just been old brass.
    I'm going to order 40gr heads and work on it some more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hicard View Post
    I use 7 grs of 2400 which gives 1821 fps and 295 fpe out of an 18" barrel @ 1262 psi. Quickloads goes up to 12 grs @ 2861 fps and 727 fpe @ 37236 psi. What powder are you using, maybe I can get some loads worked up for you on Quickloads. 46412 psi is the max for the cartridge. 13 grs of Lil'gun looks good to start at 2703 fps and 649 fpe and 28121 psi. Might have to give that one a try.
    Hey there hicard, Which bullet weight are you talking about, which bullet specifically & what seating depth if you have that info. Trying to put together a load but all I have is Ackley info and want less agressive loads, to be straight up. Have a couple of Ackleyized rifles and find the Ackley info to be "a tad" on the warm side.

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    Got some Sierra 40gr 223 Varmiters.
    Made for the 22 Hornet.
    Tried some AA 2200 Data powder. I still have a lots of it.
    12.5- Not enough powder. Very dirty. Lots of unburned. 4-5 at 50yds.
    13.0- Still not enough powder.
    13.5- Better. less unburned powder. 1-2 at 50yds.
    14.0- Better. Still some unburned powder. 1-2 at 50yds.
    Don't think this is a good powder for this caliber.
    Going to try some 2400 next.

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    What seating depth or OAL if you have that info please.

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    OAL is 1.665.
    I went with the 40gr bullet because it was shorted.
    This way I don't have the base sticking past the neck.

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    I see the postings of those who say they loaded 55 grain bullets but wonder how they got those long bullets stuffed in there. Even the polymer tipped longish 40 grain bullets don't fit real well. Mainly just old school flatbased 40-45 grainers even fit.

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    Before I got the 40gr Sierra, I had some 45gr of unknown brand.
    To fit through the magazine, the base was past the neck into the case.
    Just a little, but not how I like to load.
    With the 55gr it must stick really deep into the case.
    The barrel slugged to .221/.222, so .224 bullets probably would not be good.

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    Took it out again today.
    2400 powder
    11.5, 12.0, 12.5, 13.0, 13.5, 14.0.
    Didn't cycle.
    ????????
    Gas piston broken.
    Looks like it was cracked for a while.
    Ordered a new old stock one.
    Hope it fit without to much work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abunaitoo View Post
    Took it out again today.
    2400 powder
    11.5, 12.0, 12.5, 13.0, 13.5, 14.0.
    Didn't cycle.
    ????????
    Gas piston broken.
    Looks like it was cracked for a while.
    Ordered a new old stock one.
    Hope it fit without to much work.
    Use the wrench they sell and it won't break the nut (or grind out a socket or wrench to make one yourself). Here's one for sale on fleabay.

    http://tinyurl.com/y7724p7b

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    I have a wench, along with other tools for the Carbine.
    Never had on break before.
    Planefield made so I hope the parts fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abunaitoo View Post
    I have a wench, along with other tools for the Carbine.
    Never had on break before.
    Planefield made so I hope the parts fit.
    I have a Plainfield too and all the military parts fit.

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