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Single stage. Dillon is all about production speed. All the "reloader" does if fill hoppers and crank the handle.
With a single stage I know that each and every round is unique, because I created it with my own two hands.
I have fed a Glock 19 2000 rounds a week using a Herter's Model 3 and a Rockchucker, and felt very satisfied doing it.
Ken
All 4 shotgun gauges are done on Mec progressives, the common pistol rounds are done on a Dillon Square Deal B, the blasting rifle ammo is done on a Dillon 550. Either low volume/development or high accuracy loads are done on either a Lyman T-mag or a Rock Chucker.
Am I missing something. You set up dies on a Dillon like any other press. And you're creating each round w/ your own hands. When running a Dillon you're doing a lot more than filling hoppers and cranking the handle. It will do everything faster but that doesn't mean it's to a lesser quality.
I run them all. Sometimes I enjoy the time alone with a single stage.
My wife on the other hand bought me my first 1050, so I would have less time loading and more time with her.
Both, started with a RC, shortly after a 450B when it came out, a 550 B a couple years later. Several years ago I bought a COAX, my favorite and and a used SDB.
Don't understand the comments that you are not handloading when you use a progressive.
I use both. My Dillon SDB for my bulk pistol rounds and a single stage for rifle and high pressure pistol.
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Ken, you say every round is unique like that's a good thing. I want every round to be identical, the opposite of unique. Sparky45 is right. My criteria for choosing between a progressive and a single stage is the number of rounds I intend to load. My Dillons create the same quality ammunition as the single stage presses. I choose a single stage for up to 100 rounds due to the setup time unless I already have a toolhead and powder measure set up for the cartridge. If I'm loading more than 100 it's going to be a lot more than 100.
Single stage= fun, relaxing loading even if it's precision. Dillon 550= still fun but better production. Dillon 650= production, production, production but still frequent quality control checks.
I especially enjoy sitting down at the single stage bench to craft 20 or 40 rifle cartridges for deer, feral hogs, exotics and varmints. I load big bore pistol rounds the same way. For my competition loads the 650 throws 4.7 grains of Titegroup plus or minus next to nothing. I crank out enough ammunition in a half hour for a match or two and a practice session. I also load .223 on the 650 and load .30-'06 for my Garand on the 550. The 550 also handles most of my handgun rounds. It has conversion kits for a lot of rifle and handgun calibers.
If I had to thin down my reloading equipment I would still want my Rock Chucker and the Dillon 550. To pick between those two, I would keep the Rock Chucker because it will do everything, just slowly, but can't imagine having to make that decision.
I knew someone that USPSA in the open division and loaded on a single stage press. He shot lots of matches. I can't imagine loading that many rounds on a single stage press. Ken, my hat is off to you for making 2000/week on single stage presses. I have shot that much in a week a few times and it was a chore with a 650.
David
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I use my Dillons for pistols my single stage is for rifle only
I enjoy the process of loading on a single stage. Not tempted in the least to move to a turret or progressive. I do not shoot competitively only for hunting and recreation so the volume I shoot is lower than some.
I don't think it's a matter of liking, but different tools for different jobs. Like said above, for large batches of ammo for pistols or AR's it's hard to beat the Dillon-type machines. But for my purposes, mostly rifle ammo for hunting and casual target shooting, a single stage press works great.
I use my Dillon for most handgun ammo as that is what I shoot 99% of the time .
I use my RCBS rock chucker for rifle ammo .
And my old Posness Warren P-200 for rarely used calibers such as 32 acp and 30 carbine thats not worthwhile to convert the Dillon to . as it uses RCBS type shell holders that fits most single stage presses.
I have no issues using my Forster co ax single stage press
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I use my Dillon 550 for handgun ammo as that is what I shoot 90% of the time but I load .223 on the 550 after pepping on the RCBS .
I use my RCBS Rock Chucker for rifle ammo.
I wonder how many of the single stage guys have only single cavity molds?
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