What's a pistol ?

[Harter66]

I went to a shoot where a "new" game was introduced . A 2 gun companion shoot the rules are pretty simple . A rifle and a pistol and 1 box of ammo on an 11" scored target at 25 yd 5 shots from each . In the spirit of the 1 cartridge cowboy/settler .
Examples .
45 ACP in a 1911 and a 945 High Point
45 Colts in a Henry or 92 and some revolver .
For those into overkill ,
A BFR and a 1895 in 45-70
An X frame 500 Smith and a Handy rifle
A Grizzly 9mm Mag and a custom AR or rebarreled MPV
We even let a 20ga with a chamber insert and a M19 play
I just felt like it needed a line at a Super 14 30-30 on an Encore and a 16" Encore with a butt stock .

I guess that would make me a jerk if I said " go ahead use the Buntline and the 94'" . But in reality the Contender guy could take his 30-30 or 17 hornet or 500 Smith 16" bbl and slap it on the pistol grip frame shoot the first 5 then Chang the frame or grip to the butt stock and shoot the other 5 shots .
I suppose it could have a 2 min clock .
It should in all fairness I guess exclude Mares legs and an AR with a rifle and separate pistol lower as well .

So if it were your 2 gun , 1 cartridge , 1 hand gun ,1 rifle , where would you call the line ?

[dverna]

I would use tge ATF definition

[Tom W.]

I've been told a revolver is not a pistol. A pistol has a chamber that holds one round, a revolver has a cylinder that usually holds more than one round. Again, that's what I've been taught. Please don't take this as a beratement.

[9.3X62AL]

I would limit the daylights out of things--if for no other reason than to keep the gamesmanship enthusiasts at a respectful distance. The intensity of my dislike for that mindset is boundless.

[darrondb]

I've been told a revolver is not a pistol. A pistol has a chamber that holds one round, a revolver has a cylinder that usually holds more than one round. Again, that's what I've been taught. Please don't take this as a beratement.

I've heard this definition before as well when discussing pistol vs handgun vs revolver vs etc.

[ReloaderFred]

If it was in the spirit of the early cowboy using one caliber for both rifle and handgun, then I'd limit it to the following:

.22 LR
.32-20
.38 Special
.38-40
.44 Special
.44-40
and I'd let them shoot .45 Colt, too, even though there weren't any Model 66's, 73's, 92's or 94's chambered in that round until recently, due to the almost non-existent rim and no extractor groove. The extractor groove enabled rifles to finally work with the .45 Colt.

I might let them shoot a few other calibers, but they would have to have roots somewhere in the cowboy realm.

Hope this helps.

Fred

PS: Why did they close the public range south of Hawthorne???

[Harter66]

PS: Why did they close the public range south of Hawthorne???

It's the glorious story of some goobermental staff doo gooder that was a big fat cry baby .......sorry what I meant was there were some concerns about potential runoff contamination coming from Army owned lands and a DNC supporting Commander .
I really tried to be nice .

[Petrol & Powder]

A pistol is a handgun that has a single chamber integral with the rifled barrel.

But, in the context of the game, I think they mean revolver.

[Harter66]

Truth be told as far as hand gun goes I can't count the number of times I've read I shot this one hole 100 yd group with (insert your favorite pistol cartridge) and I'm all man that is some dialed in .......... Oh it was in a Super 14 . There's just something about a fixed SBR being a pistol that just chaps my group shooting senses .

I guess it doesn't help being of the pre Contender mindset that a pistol is a pistol except when it's a revolver and while an RXP 100 is a hand gun it's neither a pistol nor a revolver even if it's 1 of the super rare varmint slayers with a magazine .

Don't get me started on the mag clip thing I will beat you with my clearly marked CLIP Savage removable box magazine .

Limons and limes I guess .

[JSH]

Limit to a minimum and a maximum cartridge OAL.
And, straight wall only other than FACTORY offerings. I don't consider any of the old "-" cartridges a bottle neck.
Leave the most minute itty bitty gray area and some one will come up with other somthing to bend the rules and ruin the fun.

[ReloaderFred]

It's the glorious story of some goobermental staff doo gooder that was a big fat cry baby .......sorry what I meant was there were some concerns about potential runoff contamination coming from Army owned lands and a DNC supporting Commander .
I really tried to be nice .

We figured it was something like that. We used to scrounge brass and fire off a few rounds there on our way to the SHOT Show in Vegas. What do they used for a "public Range" now?

As for the original question, I'd stick with revolvers and leveraction rifles that fire the same caliber and call it good.

Fred

[Harter66]

The other 8 million acres of desert .

[Harter66]

So straight wall of cal 24-50 1.75" or less in a rifle and pistol of same and of repeating design other than gas operated ?

I didn't put to much thought into​ it . It worked out though and I think it will probably fly in the future as well .

[chuckbuster]

Sounds like a good game. Curious is the 1.75" Case Length or Loaded Cartridge OAL?

Kevin

[bob208]

colt called his guns pistols. even advertised them as such. same for a double action an a single action. it is one or the other not a da and sa.

[Harter66]

I guess that should say 1.75" maximum case length .

[lefty o]

revolvers were pistols long before most of what today is called a pistol were even dreamed up.

[dragon813gt]

This seems pretty simple. A pistol caliber lever action and a corresponding revolver. This would eliminate a whole bunch of weird combinations. In my reality you'd be shooting a Winchester or Marlin rifle along w/ a S&W, Ruger or Colt revolver.

[psweigle]

A handgun has 2 distinctions. A pistol and a revolver. Pistols cover derringers and single shots as well.

As for the "line", I would use ATF as a guideline for definition.

[frankenfab]

Sounds like a neat and quick shooting match. If I was going for score, I would use a .22 rifle and pistol.

For pure fun, it would be my Marlin 444 Outfitter paired with either my BFR, or Lone Eagle Pistol.