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    Couple of my "shooter" TDs....both H&Rs.

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    I also have a M1884 that's been reworked and restocked into a target model.

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    All nice stuff there Larry. I like your cross-draw addition on the belt. Reminds me of James Garner's rig on the 1994 movie rendition of "Maverick".
    What caliber is the model '73?
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    There were No original Carbines with a front site Like That . It does not matter If It is or not, what Matters is You like it and you enjoy shooting Them.
    Trapdoors are Like a Club Shoot them all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chill Wills View Post
    Ol Deuce , I like the story of its history.

    If you mic the diameter of the muzzle you can tell if it started out life as a rifle and was then cut down to its present length, or if it came from Springfield as a short barrel. The short barrel length you report, strongly suggests a cut down barrel. At 21" something long, it really does not conform to anything I have read about, even among the few/rare special ones Springfield made.

    My guess, and just a guess, is your rifle is a remolded Springfield rifle, which of course is still great to have, but just not a rare one.
    After all this time you guys got my juices going and well as luck would have it ,She's just a Old Girl shortened & shined But the good thing is I took the time and took it off the wall!!!Click image for larger version. 

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    Buddy that's the important thing...weather you like it. Mine is a 1873 made in 1888 haven't shot it a ton but with some 405s and 14gr unique she's shoots fine. Than cast up these lee 405hb with 14 unique and haven't made it out yet. After this I'm going blackpowder it's what she was made for. Great fun..
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    Muzzleloaders....why don't you pick one up and smoke it sometime

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    I really like the TD.and was the reason I got it ,Not future value, Those Hammers get me going !! Ol Deuce
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    Here's my all original (except the sling) 1873. Shooting it is an excellent way to spend an afternoon.Attachment 197018
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    Lethemgo, Wow- those loaded rounds look like lipstick!
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    That is my first attempt at powder coating...since I reloaded for a sharps I wouldn't mix them up at the range if I took them on the same day. Think I knew some girls who wore that color that were deadlier then these boolits.
    Muzzleloaders....why don't you pick one up and smoke it sometime

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    This is one I put together awhile back. It can do 1.5" at 100 yards pretty regularly.
    The solid soft lead bullet is undoubtably the best and most satisfactory expanding bullet that has ever been designed. It invariably mushrooms perfectly, and never breaks up. With the metal base that is essential for velocities of 2000 f.s. and upwards to protect the naked base, these metal-based soft lead bullets are splendid.
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    I`ve got an 1884 rifle with ramrod bayonet that looks like it only saw guard duty use, both stock and metal have lots of original finish. The guy that sold it to me for $200 about 25 years back wants to buy it back now for the same price!Robert

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    Here Is one of my Trapdoors 1973 Carbine . very early serial # 33XX . All the metal Is Original. > It was Restocked with The Cartouche 1889
    The Metal is in Good shape The Bore shows a Lot of service . all marked 1873 . I bought it Because of The early #
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    Quote Originally Posted by salpal48 View Post
    Here Is one of my Trapdoors 1973 Carbine . very early serial # 33XX . All the metal Is Original. > It was Restocked with The Cartouche 1889
    The Metal is in Good shape The Bore shows a Lot of service . all marked 1873 . I bought it Because of The early #
    Yours looks really good for as early as it is , How long is your Barrel??? Ol Deuce
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    OK, here's mine. Sorry about the quality of the pic, but didn't have time to stage it properly.

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    I've got a 1870 in 50/70 that I have had for 27 years. It had been completely refinished including one of the best blue jobs I have ever seen. When I first looked at it, they were asking $375. I walked away at the price. I did a little research and decided it would cost almost as much to get set up to reload as the rifle at that time. Brass was $2 each and the only dies I could find were RCBS and stupid expensive. I wasn't casting at the time and bullets were difficult to find and expensive.(this was before Al Gore invented the innerweb) Went back into the gun shop 4-5 months later and the tag had dropped to $250 and they had added that it came with 100 pieces of brass and a set of RCBS dies. It came home with me. At the price of brass and dies I figure they were paying me to take the rifle home....

    It shoots great. Still shoot probably 200 rounds a year through it. 450 grain slugs certainly drop the lead pot fast.

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    MY GEMMER


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    Quote Originally Posted by varsity07840 View Post
    MY GEMMER

    Very nice. I have all the parts for a Gemmer TD. I really want one. Just need to find the time to do it.

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    My Cavalry Carbine clone I built from a sporterized 1884 infantry Trapdoor. S/N indicates it was made in April-June 1895.



    Sight in target with factory .459 hardcast boolits over 22 gr of IMR4198.


    My son in law shooting my other 1884 TD. It has an 1873 breach block and 1879 rear sight. Just like a Bannerman special!

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    I own a Pedersoli Cavalry carbine and love shooting it w/ BP.
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    Not sure if this has been covered previously but heres a video I just found on the experimental .30-40 Trap Door carbine.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F49D67pJEY

    The rifle being test fired is a replica that duplicates the unique barrel and sights of the experimental rifles.
    Enjoy

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