New Nipple = Accuracy Check

[FrontierMuzzleloading]

Got a couple new Treso nipples in today for my Traditions St.Louis Hawken.

I loaded up my current hunting load of 70gr Pyrodex P, .020" patch, .490" round ball.

Before loading, I popped 2 caps and they sounded real dull, not the typical sharp loud crack that I usually hear. I could hear a muffled boop, come out of the muzzle when the cap went off.

But anyway, the nipple worked flawless with Pyrodex. Cap fit is still a little loose so pinching the cap is a must. I'll cut some rubber hose and slip that over the nipple to hold it in place while hunting.

My first shot is to the right. After seeing that I just about busted my twisted up gut the doctor found yesterday
Open sights, traditional muzzleloader and patched round ball. HELL YES!

[OverMax]

Target: Excellent grouping can't get much better. Glad the nipple change out worked out well on that Traditions. Yup! (Going to get those hybrid bullet shooters jealous U are.)__

[FrontierMuzzleloading]

damn straight! Especially since I forgot to mention that was from 100 yards!

[indian joe]

damn straight! Especially since I forgot to mention that was from 100 yards!

I've got a couple targets almost as good - round ball can do it !! - mine out of CVA barrels too !
Joe

[54bore]

Treso nipples are all i am using now, the Stainless RMC nipples shot out REALLY fast, The Treso/Ampco's are holding up good

[stubshaft]

Treso nipples are all i am using now, the Stainless RMC nipples shot out REALLY fast, The Treso/Ampco's are holding up good

I have to agree. I had an RMC burn out in under 50 shots with my J.P. Murray.

[FrontierMuzzleloading]

I thing I worry about with the treso nipple is an experience I had years ago. I removed the nipple one day and half the threads were broken off. This was probably 10+ years ago and I never bought one after that. I hope this time things go better.

[54bore]

I just now took this picture, they both have the same 20 shot count, The Treso/Ampco is stil like brand new, The Stainless RMC is already garbage

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[jjarrell]

I'll swear by the Spitfire Magnums for #11 nipples. Toughest, most consistent nipples I've ever used. Never had a misfire with one, even on rainy or snowy days hunting. I have probably 1000 shots on a couple of them and you cant tell they've ever been struck by a hammer. I've also compared my used ones to new Spitfires by inserting torch tip cleaners into the touch holes and they show no flame cutting. I haven't tried Treso so I cant say anything about them, but I was impressed enough with Spitfires to switch from Hot Shot nipples after years of use.

[54bore]

I'll swear by the Spitfire Magnums for #11 nipples. Toughest, most consistent nipples I've ever used. Never had a misfire with one, even on rainy or snowy days hunting. I have probably 1000 shots on a couple of them and you cant tell they've ever been struck by a hammer. I've also compared my used ones to new Spitfires by inserting torch tip cleaners into the touch holes and they show no flame cutting. I haven't tried Treso so I cant say anything about them, but I was impressed enough with Spitfires to switch from Hot Shot nipples after years of use.

jjarrell, I have been waiting for the Spitfires to show up in stock around my parts (Buffalo Arms, and October Country) they have been on back order for quite sometime now. I have heard great things about them. So far i am VERY impressed with the Treso/Ampco nipples, very durable and are holding up well, shooting 80 plus Grains of Black with BIG heavy bullets really takes its toll on a nipple

[jjarrell]

jjarrell, I have been waiting for the Spitfires to show up in stock around my parts (Buffalo Arms, and October Country) they have been on back order for quite sometime now. I have heard great things about them. So far i am VERY impressed with the Treso/Ampco nipples, very durable and are holding up well, shooting 80 plus Grains of Black with BIG heavy bullets really takes its toll on a nipple

October Country Muzzleloading has them at $4.67 for 1/4x28 thread Spitfires. www.octobercountry.com

[54bore]

October Country Muzzleloading has them at $4.67 for 1/4x28 thread Spitfires. www.octobercountry.com

They might be back in stock now? I live about 45 minutes from October Country and get in there about once a month or so (i much prefer Buffalo Arms) The last time i was in OC it showed online that these spitfires were in stock but they were not. They only had 1 spitfire left and it was for a Lyman, i grabbed it for my Lyman GPH .54, its gonna get tested HARD in the next few days, i will be shooting a 530 Grain PP bullet with 70-80 Grains of Swiss 3F

[54bore]

Are these Spitfires suppose to be cut off center like this?

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I had to do a little retrofitting with this Spitfire in order to work in my Lyman GPH rifle, the nipple stud was to tall not allowing the hammer to half cock, i had to take about a 1/16 or so off, now it works great. I like the shorter thread journal on these Spitfires, allows more room above the powder from the bottom of the nipple, which i would think would give more reliable ignition.

[FrontierMuzzleloading]

not off that bad, but it does happen if the flash hole is drilled off center. Shouldn't hurt a thing.

[54bore]

not off that bad, but it does happen if the flash hole is drilled off center. Shouldn't hurt a thing.

You got a crooked eye my friend! The counter hole (whatever its called?) is off by quite a bit. I am not worried about it, just curious if this is normal? This is the first Spitfire nipple i have owned, so no experience with them

[FrontierMuzzleloading]

I meant it shouldnt by off that bad. Not normal, but it will not hurt anything either as far as ignition performance goes.

[waksupi]

If accuracy goes away with a caplock, the nipple is usually the culprit.

[jjarrell]

I agree, it shouldn't hurt anything or have an adverse impact on ignition. I checked all of mine however, and they are centered. Just an "off" day in the machine shop. LOL

[54bore]

If accuracy goes away with a caplock, the nipple is usually the culprit.

I VERY much agree waksupi!!

[waksupi]

not off that bad, but it does happen if the flash hole is drilled off center. Shouldn't hurt a thing.

Agree. It's the SIZE of the hole that matters.