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View Poll Results: How Much Lemi, How Long to Tumble?

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  • 1/4 tsp Lemi

    51 45.13%
  • 1/2 tsp Lemi

    24 21.24%
  • 1 tsp Lemi

    25 22.12%
  • 1-1/2 tsp Lemi

    5 4.42%
  • 1 Tbsp Lemi

    7 6.19%
  • More Lemi

    0 0%
  • 30 Min Tumble

    5 4.42%
  • 60 Min Tumble

    10 8.85%
  • 90 Min Tumble

    12 10.62%
  • 120 Min Tumble

    37 32.74%
  • 180 Min Tumble

    22 19.47%
  • Longer Tumble

    11 9.73%
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Thread: Lemi Shine - How Much, How Long

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    Where did I go wrong, my brass turned pink?

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    Ive never tried Lemi-shine. Didnt have any on hand. So I just tossed 2 caps of bottled lemon juice into the Thumblers along with a squirt of Dawn. Tumbled for 2 hrs. The brass came out awesome. Looks brand new inside and out. We are all overthinking this.

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    gnostic, we need more details and a picture would be nice to help you.

    I'm thinking you left the brass soaking in lemishine/citric acid to long after it got done tumbling

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnostic View Post
    Where did I go wrong, my brass turned pink?
    Pink brass sounds like too much Citric Acid. It takes very little. It depends on your water hardness but a 380 or 9mm case is plenty in a 15# drum. I started a thread a few weeks ago about my brass occasionally coming out dull. I about decided that I left in in the solution too long when it quit tumbling. I now note the start time and empty it pretty quickly when it stops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnostic View Post
    Where did I go wrong, my brass turned pink?
    As stated above; too long in the cleaner. Acid will attack the sink in the brass, and the pink is micro etching of the surface brass after the zink in the surface layer was reduced. Long term tumbling in media will reduce the pink color; but one would have to polish the case with 000, or 0000 steel wool to get rid of the pink color (removing the micro top layer of the brass).


    I also find this happening with range brass I pick up that has become discolored from prolonged exposure such as under the snow for a winter. When cleaned in ultra sound with Lemi-Shine for too long it will turn pink sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conditor22 View Post
    gnostic, we need more details and a picture would be nice to help you.

    I'm thinking you left the brass soaking in lemishine/citric acid to long after it got done tumbling
    I wish I knew how to post photos... I soaked the dirty cases in Lemi Shine and Dawn for about an hour, they looked cleaner, but not like the ones in the photo. I re soaked them in tap water and left them in the sun to dry. They dried with a pink cast.

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    Thanks for responding... I think Lightman and Mustang have it right, I soaked them in too strong a solution and for too long. I normally clean my brass by tumbling in corn cob that I buy online. Cases cleaned in the corn cob mix, don't seem to last as long as they did when I wiped them off and reloaded them. The cases that turned pink, I ran through the Dillon and they shot fine...

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    "I also find this happening with range brass I pick up that has become discolored from prolonged exposure such as under the snow for a winter."

    Brass like described will turn pink with citric acid cleaning and brass that is not discolored from prolonged exposure comes out bright and clean after being wet tumbled at the same time, but doesn't matter when loading and shooting.

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    I have not used pins as brass on brass seemed to get the job done. I started just using hot water and dawn and that worked great. added some lemishine and could see no difference, especially long term. all my brass that I wet tumbled has tarnished some with time. dawn and water for the win

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    I've been wet tumbling for years with jewelry like results. However, I shoot and reload so often that perfect results just aren't called for.

    In the past year or so from my last post to this thread, for my everyday/plinking rounds, I've saved a lot of time and effort by not been wet tumbling them. Instead, I just soak them in accord with the following recipe:

    1. After decapping, put the brass on a plastic bucket and add 1 ounce of Persil brand detergent. This stuff is much more intense than Dawn, Tide or any other detergent I've ever used. It is definitely different - even the water feels different once it's mixed in - feels slippery, slick and thicker.

    2. Add a spackling/shake of Lemi-Shine and cover everything with hot tap water,

    3. Agitate the brass a couple of times while it is soaking. Soak for an hour or so then rinse in cold water.

    The brass comes out quite shiney - way good enough for reloading everyday stuff. After the brass is put through a sizing die, it shines even more.

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    All "brass" is not created equal. As I am still working to perfect my homemade, 1HP, variable speed tumbler and an acceptable, ribbed tub for it, I'm still using the dual HF one. At any rate, I size and decap everything before cleaning. Sometimes this involves lube like lanolin/isopropyl alcohol and this leaves a residue. To cut down on the time and possibly having to changing water in tubs, I'll spray the brass down with brake cleaner-just enough to get the majority of lube off. My pins are SS but I cut each and every one (1/4") from 3/32" rods to make around 5 lbs. Out of all the recipes thus far, it stands true about covering brass with water, a few squirts of Dawn and a pinch of LS. One recipe I've found included salt and white vinegar but I didn't see a difference with that. Remember to always check for stuck SS pins after washing/drying! Don't know what kind of effect one would have going down the bore.
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    A dash of Lemi Shine, a dash of Meguiar's G17748 Ultimate Wash & Wax
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