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    True Blue with a 124 gr boolit. The specs are on the website. If it ain't in my book I don't do it.
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    This is exactly what I was thinking. Collectively we have more info than the manuals. My lee manual doesn't even have data for their own cast bullets and we don't have their specific gun. So knowing the oal needed for different guns is invaluable. Thanks guys keep the info coming.

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    My favorite is 3.8 to 3.9gr load of bullseye. In my 9mm ( 120gr lee tc pc) it is very economical and accurate. I would goto 4.0gr BE but my next autodisc is 4.2gr.

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    My gun game load for IDPA is 147gr LRN (Saeco) over 3.6gr of WST, any std primer I have. Makes 910-920fps in a 5" 1911 or G34. Accurate enough for 6" plates out to 50yds if I do my part. One of these days I will break out the ransom rest & see whats up, but 2", slow fire offhand groups @ 25yds is not hard.
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    I recently worked up a load for my new 135 rnfp NOE bullet. The bullet is powder coated with an ES gun, and sized to .358. I have a lot of 20/28 on hand from when I used to load for 20ga., and since it was designed to be a slightly denser version of Unique, it works great for 9mm. For my Sig 228, 4.7 grains gives me about 950 fps, and is very accurate for a 9mm.

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    Glock 26,17,34 & 5 ar 9 carbines of various makes and length. NOE 358-135 RNFP-GC/4.8gr. nobel sport BA-7.5 accurate as hell and feeds in all guns.

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    Ranch Dog 135-RF gas checked for when I need best accuracy. Weighs 142 in softer range scrap, down to about 138 with 4% Sb alloy. 5.3 gr of Power Pistol and either 45-45-10 or smoke's zombie green. With the tumble lube in the Camp 9, I've shot half inch 5 shot groups at 50 yards on many occasions. Fast 20 round groups (2-3 seconds between shots, continuous) of 1.5" at 50 are common with a hot barrel.

    I run the Lee 125-rf at 1.06" OAL for M&Ps and my Camp 9, which all have generous throats. My performance center Shield has a smaller diameter throat than my full size M&Ps by .001" but it will still take a .3575 loaded out at the same length as everything else. I run up to 6.2 of Power Pistol at this OAL. Load less if you are loading shorter. I am going to do an accuracy ladder in the rifle at 50 yards from 5.0-6.2 of Power Pistol with this bullet hopefully tomorrow. I will use the accurate load and hopefully it has the same POI as my Ranch Dog bullet but be far easier to produce.

    I also use up to 4.0 gr Titegroup with the 125-rf. I haven't accuracy tested any of these in the rifle either, but I know I need 3.6 gr to reliably cycle everything. I have probably shot 5000 of this bullet in the last 4 or 5 years using mostly these two powders.

    I also load the 95-rf with around 5 grains of fast powder such as Titegroup, Red Dot, and American Select. I also use up to 7.8 grains of Power Pistol from the Alliant 2002 data. This really works the ports on the little shield, and really vaporizes liquid targets out to 50 yards in the rifle even though the group size is only 3-4" at that distance. Still better than your average slug gun, and awesome, hollow point-like or round ball-like performance.
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    Please continue to post. A resource like this would be great for new reloaders

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    9MM
    Loaded on a Dillon Super1050
    All cases were resized in a Lee U-die and loaded rounds were finished with a Lee Factory Crimp Die. No crimp was used, just taking out the flare to .379/.380dia.
    OAL: 1.10 for all loads
    Brass: Mixed range brass
    Primer: Federal Small Magnum Pistol Match GM200M (I have a LOT left over from hoarding during Obummer years)

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    147gr/.355 RN (Polycoated) The Blue Bullets (actual weight is 150)
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    Vectan Nobel Sport Prima V - 3.3gr @ 890fps (CZ Shadow) *most accurate in my Glock 34 w/factory barrel
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    Currently trying to use up some 8-9 year old Alliant Red Dot. I have been trying to use up this pound of powder in almost every pistol I have. Have not used any yet in the 12/20 ga. yet. The pistols/revolver include: .380AP/9mm/.38 spec./.357 ag./44 Rem Mag./.45 ACP
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    For the 9mm.. Using that Red Dot powder in a Ruger SR9(Full size):

    Using 3.8 & 3.9 gr. RD powder under a Lee TL .356-124-2R sized to .357 as the mold drops a bit bigger(around .357 /.358). Groove size slugged at .3555. Used Recluse 45/45/10 Lube to TL & have had NO issue with leading. Fairly accurate, but I am having some neurapathy issues in my right hand/ elbow/arm so even at bench rest/sand bags, I am having a bit of a hard time with holding steady to be sure on accuracy. I am hitting a small pie plate paper plate @ 25 yards(75 ft.) with a stick-on 2 inch orangy/red srick on Bullseye & hitting paper plate, with most shots in the Bull or within an inch or so.

    Maybe 2 inches from outside to outside when "on". This neurapathy in this arm restricts my accuracy, but I figure if I am hitting an 6-7 inch paper plate at 25 yds... then if I am not hitting the head & spine, I am making the Btard duck & he/she is listening to a sound that they would not want to hear..


    Anyway, that is my current offering to what load I am using for a 9mm.

    I also have some other offerings that range from 102gr. to 158gr. , but this is a mid range for bullet weight & , I think, fairly common weight(gr.) of round so it may be useful to others. (I , personally, think 115 gr. is a bit light for the 9mm even though it is very common... the only reason I have the other data is from using the .380 & .38 SPec/.357 & interchanging the boollits to see what they can do.. YMMV. Do what you are comfortable with doing. )

    This Topic is a good reference for actual "User" data, IMO. I have it "bookmarked" for later on use, when I want to try other mixes..
    But, I would offer that one needs to consider the firearm & the other factors that may be of issue, like OAL & such, when one thinks about using the data offered here..

    I, myself, do not yet have a "hardness" tester, nor do I have a "Chronograph". I have to use the "old school" method of using the loading manuals & other resources, then starting low & then taking the time to try powder amounts going from minimum to just about maximum usually 10 rounds at a time at a "tenth" of a grain each & testing each step of powder increase for it's accuracy, signs of over pressure/under pressure, etc.. Testing/checking boollit grains & making sure they are within a reasonable weight from one to another & also make sure that I record the info I do gather for future use... Record keeping is a pain , but can save yur A@@ IF Ya do pay attention to the notes...

    Disclaimer: This is "My" weapon & "My" data. Your use of such is at YOUR OWN RISK.

    Thanks to the OP & everyone for sharing what they can!

    This really is a good topic & other than the risk of someone using the data & having a bad day, it could be a wealth of info for the future, as long as no one gets overboard with their data & some "hot stuff" doesn't get into the sharing.


    ( Note: To anyone who wants to beech about how long it takes for me to say what I want to say... I guarantee it took me longer to type, than it takes for you to possibly read the post. . LOL )

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    For a low noise, garden pest load I have been using 158s in my Camp 9 rifle. These loads are generally for suppressor use, but even without a suppressor they are quiet in the rifle like a 22.

    If you want to load heavy bullets, read this link, then read it again. You have to be aware of cartridge OAL and also length of your bullet. Loading heavy bullets in a 9mm case is something you have to be cautious with. The experience is rewarding however when you are shooting 950 fps with a 160 and it is as loud as a standard velocity 22.

    http://www.shootingtimes.com/reloadi...-in-9mm-luger/

    The Lee 158-RF is shorter than the plated hollow point in the article above, and I'm loading to a longer OAL than the article, so I KNOW I have more case capacity and less pressure. With all that said, I load up to 2.9 grains of Titegroup at 1.07" OAL. For a full power load in the handgun, I load 4.2 gr Power Pistol at the same OAL. This gives around 930 fps in a 4". Makes my M&P9 into an 18 shot Model 10!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnewcomb59 View Post
    For a low noise, garden pest load I have been using 158s in my Camp 9 rifle. These loads are generally for suppressor use, but even without a suppressor they are quiet in the rifle like a 22.

    If you want to load heavy bullets, read this link, then read it again. You have to be aware of cartridge OAL and also length of your bullet. Loading heavy bullets in a 9mm case is something you have to be cautious with. The experience is rewarding however when you are shooting 950 fps with a 160 and it is as loud as a standard velocity 22.

    http://www.shootingtimes.com/reloadi...-in-9mm-luger/

    The Lee 158-RF is shorter than the plated hollow point in the article above, and I'm loading to a longer OAL than the article, so I KNOW I have more case capacity and less pressure. With all that said, I load up to 2.9 grains of Titegroup at 1.07" OAL. For a full power load in the handgun, I load 4.2 gr Power Pistol at the same OAL. This gives around 930 fps in a 4". Makes my M&P9 into an 18 shot Model 10!
    I am glad you posted this. I found an older thread where you spoke to this http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...r-cast-bullets and tried it for myself. I've been using both 3.5 and 4 grains of Power Pistol and the Lee 158 RF in a Taurus PT 1911 9mm and a Smith and Wesson Model 59. I find the loads to be accurate and considering that the FBI recently went to a 147 grain load at circa 950 fps, figure that the load can't be all bad. Like you say, it makes a 9 a 38 Special, something I've contended is pretty well true across the board anyway as with similar bullet weights, the 38 is rarely more than 150 fps behind the Parabellum. I also like 4.5 grains of Power Pistol under the Lee 120 TC Keeping the velocity down and using a slower powder has stopped the issue I was having with the Lee 120 TC key holing which lead me to trying your loads out. As you state in the previous article, the 4 grain load is a bit heavy and leads me to believe the recoil spring in the Model 59 is in need of replacing as in the Taurus the 4 grain load will not lock the slide back, but the 3.5 grain will lock the Model 59 every time, and the 4 grain load is quite snappy though it is lighter than the all steel Taurus

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    NOE 358-128 (sized .356-White label Carnauba Red) or Extreme 124gr plated RN, 5.8gr AA #5, any small primer (Fed or WSP mostly). Shoot in Shield, Rohrbaugh, or SA EMP 3". Had to tighten taper crimp for EMP.
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    I think most important piece of the 9mm puzzle is the expanding die, for now I use the Lee 38SW plug, and it has worked for about 4 years perfectly.

    Having said that, the load I shoot the absolute most of is the MP359-135FP 50/50 cowwure with a splash of tin, water dropped sized to .359 w/carnauba red over 3.1gr titegroup.

    I've lost count how many thousands I've shot, somewhere from 15-20k or more in my glock 19 with stock barrel.


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    Mihec 125gr hp
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    sized to .358"
    5.0gr of wst
    1.130" oal
    Not a "cherry" picked target by any means. This is the actual target I used to test that 5.0gr wst load.
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    LEE 125 gr. RN .358 5.6 AA#5 Data is missing.

    LEE 125 gr. RF .358 5.4 AA#5 Seated to 1.05" 1094 FPS Avg.
    LEE 125 gr. RF .358 4.0 Unique ll 1030 FPS Avg.
    LEE 125 gr. RF .358 4.4 ll ll 1124 FPS Avg.

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    3 to 4.5 grains of Red Dot depending on application. Less for handguns, more for carbines. 4 grains is a bit snappier than I like in handguns. But I have a Handi rifle and a Hipoint carbine that both love that load. Its got teeth. Normally though I don't run up to the max edge like that.

    As for boolits I started with the tl.358-158 2r, the tl .356-124 tc, and the .358-125rf.

    That last one was a real problem solver for a couple of my 9's.

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    Lee 120 gr. TC bullet over 3.9 gr. of Titegroup, shoots very nicely in both of my 9mm guns. Initially I sezed these at .357, my Ruger has a .356 barrel, from now on I am sizing .358.

    Probably my favourite 9mm bullet is the Lee 125gr. RNFP, in hard alloy they weigh in at 128 gr. I load those over 3.8 gr. of Titegroup.

    I also load and old Lyman bullet it is a 77gr. wadcutter, I load them just below the top of the front driving band over 1.5 gr. of Hodgdons Clays. They do not function the action but will feed through the magazine manually, these are very nice small game loads, and quite accurate a small game ranges. The plus side is you do not have to spend a lot of time looking for your brass.

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    Any 115 FMJ over 5.0 of 231
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    5.4 grains of WSF behind any 115gr RN FMJ bullet seated to a COL of 1.160" Works in every 9mm pistol I own and several I don't. Good accuracy, doesn't beat the gun up and functions well.

    A little less WSF for a Lee 120 TC cast bullet.

    Lead bullets and 9mm Luger are compatible BUT every pistol is different. When using cast bullets, I must tailor the 9mm loads to the gun so I tend to load cast bullets for just 1 pistol and use jacketed rounds for everything else. Keeps my life simple.

    I totally agree with Tazman, the Beretta 92 is one of the best functioning 9mm pistols I've ever found. It also shoots cast bullets well without a lot of fuss; so it's the one I load for.

    On a side note, I had an old Beretta 92SB (Italian manufacture, blued with a rounded trigger guard) that would reliably feed empty brass. Made malfunction drills a lot simpler


    P.S. That COL is a bit long by most standards but still within the max of 1.168" . It functions in all of my magazines.
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