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Thread: Amazing things you find at a shooting area! WOW!

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    Exclamation Amazing things you find at a shooting area! WOW!

    Last summer I was out at a local area in the bush south of town, where people often go to do some informal shooting. When I arrived, I did my part as a totally obsessed reloader, and collected all the reloadable brass others have so graciously left behind.


    After I collected what was there, I had planned on doing my own shooting. While I was picking up some brass, I noticed 9-10 very unusual looking cartridges, all clumped together on the ground. Short necks and an uneven/ oblong circumference. 4 or 5 of the cases had a split along the neck down to about half way to the case head!


    When I looked closely, the cases were head stamped 300 savage. The body shape and shoulder location was reminiscent of a 308 Winchester! It always amazes me how people can get their ammo so mixed up! Not too mention that they are certainly not observant in the least! To do this once is dangerous and careless, but 10 times is plain idiotic!!!!! WOW!


    Then this last week, I go out to the same area again, and found some MORE of these mutilated gems! This shooting area is fairly large, therefore, for the person who shot these new Cartridge gems in "EXACTLY" the same spot, HAD to be the same person as before! This time they decided to shoot 300 winchester magnum cartridges in a 300 Weatherby chambered rifle! This left 8 or 9 big super short necked, double radius shouldered empties lying around! LMAO!


    Fellow shooters, lets be sure to help newer and/or inexperienced shooters to learn the importance of cartridge nomenclature, and the significance of how their safety (and everyone around them) is at stake! I hope this/these fellows didn't damage their firearms or themselves in the process!


    I have kept these case as a reminder and a learning tool for my boys and new shooters.


    Take care fellow shooters, and be safe!

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    That's a good idea about informing new shooters but...You just can't fix 'stupid'!

    I suppose 'stupid' eventually fixes itself...you know...'The Darwin Awards!'
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    True enough "OS OK".

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    Got to talking to a guy at work. told me his dad had brought a german 8mm rifle home from the war. had some ammo, too, but he couldn't figure out what the big deal was. The rifle wasn't accurate at all. I asked him to show me what they had been shooting. Next day he brought a couple of rounds with military headstamp. They had been shooting 30-06 ammo. When I explained the difference in bullet diameter, you could see the lightbulb turning on.

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    Was at the local gun club one day found a whole bunch of .41mag .44 mag and .45LC one of the. 44 mag was half blown including the rim best I could tell the dufus had touched off a .44 mag in a .45 LC. Oops

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    I saw an 06' case that had a primer pocket big enough to seat a 209 once.
    Impressive to say the least.

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    About a year and a half ago a group of us were at the range and found some odd looking pistol cases on the ground (observe I said CASES). These cases were 9mm luger and the mouth was belled out. Found an old 40 S&W laying on the range and compared the mouth of the cases. They were identical. Someone had been shooting 9mm in a pistol chambered for 40 S&W.

    Then just a few days ago I was watching a video on Demolition Ranch on YouTube, and Matt was trying the same thing. Of course he had the gun tied down and pulled the trigger from a safe distance. The cases were identical to the ones we had found on the range.

    I guess there is absolutely no accounting for stupid in the world.
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    I have found 9mm fired in a 40, 40 fired in a 45, and 300 win mag fired in a 300 wby mag. I hope nobody was injured, but natural selection has a way of sorting things out.

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    Several years ago I was in a local gun shop where we lived at the time. The owner handed me 3-4 270 WCF cases and asked, "What do you think of these, Vic"? When I looked the primer pockets were entirely black and a large rifle primer literally fell into the cavity. One still had the primer, how I don't know, but you could barely tell where the primer ended and the case began and flattened is not descriptive enough.

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    WOW !!!,,Maybe too much Dam that was fun ...

    I talked to a few guys that are that slow.

    Some times I can see maybe someone new or maybe in war and its shoot or be killed but man-o-man.

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    About a year ago I purchased a Vanguard in 300 Weatherby from a guy locally. He said he also said he had a partial box of ammo, 17 rounds if I remember correctly, to go with the rifle. He had only fired it those few times. Bought the rifle. Remembered the ammo as I was about to leave. The guy goes back in and comes out with a partial box of 300 Win Mag. I asked if he had fired the Win Mag ammo in the rifle and he told me that's what the guy at the gun store sold him!! I did a net search and he is not the first guy to do this. I'm not gonna....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CastingFool View Post
    Got to talking to a guy at work. told me his dad had brought a german 8mm rifle home from the war. had some ammo, too, but he couldn't figure out what the big deal was. The rifle wasn't accurate at all. I asked him to show me what they had been shooting. Next day he brought a couple of rounds with military headstamp. They had been shooting 30-06 ammo. When I explained the difference in bullet diameter, you could see the lightbulb turning on.
    Question how did they get the bolt to close there is a lot of difference between 30-06 and 8x57 mauser like 6mm difference

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    I had a pre-war Oberndorf German Mauser sporter once- bore dimensions + chamber and throat/leade dimensions were pure 8x57. The weird thing was the chamber neck which was 9mm. I was told that sometimes they would apply large necks to chambers for guns headed to the tropics, in an effort to keep chamber pressures down. The funny thing was it was a tack driver. I didn't load 8mm's back then and routinely left my fired brass in the trash cans, and I often wondered if it caused brass scroungers to scratch their heads.

    I ran into a dufus at a range once who was shooting a greasy old rattle trap SMLE. He was complaining about its total lack of accuracy. Being a helpful soul when I'm in the mood, I asked to peek down his bore. Sure enough my suspicions were confirmed- he had a .410 shotshell No.1 MkIII Indian Army altered rifle (issued to guards and such who they didn't trust with .303's). (Not a true .410- the shot cartridges were made from straight .303 brass, and issued with round lead ball projectiles.) His .303 empties were blown out straight. When I explained all this to the guy, he couldn't believe that the gun shop clerk would sell him a rifle along with the blatantly wrong ammo and asked how to make it shoot ok to kill a deer at a hundred yards. He couldn't get it through his head that a smooth .41 bore would in no way ever stabilize a .303 bullet. Then he asked if he could buy .410 shotshells and at least hunt small game with it. I then told him that generally speaking those particular .410 Enfields won't chamber regular .410 ammo because of rim differences and slight chamber differences, and to prove the point I dug out a 2½" .410 shell from my skeet shooting kit- it almost but not quite fit in his chamber. The poor guy was so dejected- all his hunting dreams were right down the drain. I had him meet me at the range a few more times for some basic instructions and rifle practice and ended up selling him my beater M94 loaner gun and a sack full of cartridges which he actually got pretty handy with and darned if he didn't get a deer his first time out.

    Most of my stories about ignoramuses and guns center around Lee Enfields for some reason.
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    I picked up a steel cased 223 that was fired in a 6.8 chamber .
    Half a box of 7mm Remington Magnum with suspiciously round shoulders , Weatherby like .

    A number of years ago I read about a writer that had gone to a company show and shoot with his boss . They had shot up several hundred rounds of pistol ammo through the new factory demo guns . The writer is spotting for his boss who has shot pretty well for the last hour or so and he's tossing them all over the 24" 25 yd backer when he hits it . After the 2nd cylinder they swap places and the writer looks at the brass he's ejected from the 44 mag with big splits and a mouth almost as big as the rim ......... That'll happen when you shoot 41s in a 44 .

    At one point in time I made 20 rounds of 7.62-39 out of 6.8 but that was on purpose . I once made a few 9x57 by running 06' in an 8-57 die and fire forming with corn meal the neck and all for correct neck length it would have been worth it to have left 1 of those out with rifling on that very long neck .
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    Its not always from ingnorence. I was finding 308s with no neck for awhile at our club. A member had bought one of the chamber insert to convert his garand to 308 that the navy used for awhile. He lock tited it in place and cjhecked headspace. and at some point it pulled out with the extracted case. I finally caught up with him and showed him his brass and got the story. He didn't reload and was shooting berdan primed mill surpluss. so brass wasn't an issue to him.

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    Well at least the 300 win mag would headspace on its belt like the 300 Weatherby it was being shot in. STILL !!!!!!!

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    A fellow comes in and sits to my left on line, he is setting up and I not paying much attention to the little stuff. Going cold we march down and on way back he tells me he has a Steyr M95, I told him I had on of those cheek slapping things. Go hot and I am leaned over what ever it was and then boom, a three foot fire cone off to my left. What the ----, I stand up and he pops her open and I pick it up and look at it. He informs me that it did not kick but sure made a fireball and he couldn't tell if it hit anything. I ask him where he acquired rifle and had it been inspected, he said at the gun store and the "guy" also had cheap ammo to go with it. I ask him nicely to please clear weapon, then he was a little shocked when I stuck one in muzzle and rattled it. It appears that 7.62x54R is a wee bit smaller than 8x56R. I have come to the point to try and sit as far left as possible if not last left bench keeping scan 90 right, do it long enough and you will probably have a story also.

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    An RV dealer I know did something really dangerous. His father owned two Savage 99's, one a 250-3000, the other a 243. As a teenager, the eldest son fired a 250 in the 243. The deer died, the rifle's receiver was sprung, but it held. I think of this every time someone tells me they have different calibers based on the same case.

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    I have a piece of pistol brass I picked off the ground at our range - flattened pierced primer and torn where the extractor was. Somebody accidentally double charged it I suspect. Been going to mount it on a small display board above my press as a reminder of what not to do.

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    Yes. And we drive on the roads with this level of dough brain every day. Explains a lot.

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