StainLess Steel MediaInline FabricationTitan ReloadingADvertise here
Graf & SonsLee PrecisionMidSouth Shooters SupplyRotoMetals2

Results 1 to 14 of 14

Thread: Who has a Rossi 44 or 45 with 24" barrel?

  1. #1

    Who has a Rossi 44 or 45 with 24" barrel?

    I think I need another rifle for CLAS pistol and rifle matches.
    Our local club only allows cast bullets as we have mild steel targets.
    I'm currently using a 357 Marlin cowboy which gets 1.5" at 50 yds with a 180 gr bullet.
    I like the idea of a Rossi 44 or 45 as they are affordable to buy and cheap to reload.
    Can they match my 357 for accuracy? I believe the 45s have an oversize chamber. Does that significantly effect case life, or can it be overcome by neck sizing only?
    Hard work made me what I am today,
    Broken and broke
    ******************************
    Bob

  2. #2
    Boolit Master Dan Cash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Western North Dakota
    Posts
    2,593
    I have a Rossi "Puma" rifle that is maybe 15 or 20 years old in .45 Colt. It is a neat looking rifle and functions very well but accuracy is nothing to brag about, at least with loads compatible with the Colt revolver. Chamber is oversize but can't say how much case life is reduced as my ammo is shot in both rifle and pistol. I don't have any significant case loss.
    To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, the trouble with many shooting experts is not that they're ignorant; its just that they know so much that isn't so.

  3. #3
    Boolit Master

    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Ivanhoe, TX
    Posts
    357
    I have the 20 inch in .45 and yes the chamber is oversized. It shoots very well, better than I can.

  4. #4
    Boolit Master Harter66's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Walker Lake Nv. or just about 5 miles west of the exact middle of nowhere.
    Posts
    4,067
    Quote Originally Posted by rond View Post
    I have the 20 inch in .45 and yes the chamber is oversized. It shoots very well, better than I can.
    Me too .
    The neck area is correct it just has a fat body . This is true of the pre safety and the 2013 in my control .
    In the time of darkest defeat,our victory may be nearest. Wm. McKinley.

    I was young and stupid then I'm older now. Me 1992

    About that rally point, the soap and mail boxes fall on blind eyes and deaf ears,the ballot box is manipulated,it would seem we are fast running out options....

  5. #5
    Boolit Master




    Bzcraig's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Nampa, ID
    Posts
    3,465
    I have a 24" 45LC and a 20" 44mag. With Stevegunz bolt safety replacement peep sight my 45 shot this 20 round group at 50yds.
    "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same......." - Ronald Reagan

    "It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather, we should thank God that such men lived." - George Patton

    The second amendment is a nail on which hangs a picture of freedom - member Alex 4x4 Tver, Russia

  6. #6
    Boolit Man
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Prineville, Oregon
    Posts
    110
    I have the 24" octagon bbl Rossi in 44 mag. Properly sized chamber so easy to load for. A bit picky in the COAL department, so doesn't give me a lot of leeway for bullet seating. And it doesn't like the 300 grain LFN bullet that is my favorite in the RedHawk revolver which was a disappointment. But it does fairly decent with lighter bullets, though I don't have one that would equal your 357 results (yet). 'Tis a beauty to fire off-hand, though -- one of my favorites for tin-can blasting.

  7. #7
    Boolit Master
    Ed in North Texas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    1,482
    I also have a 24" octagon .45 Colt, new in 2015. No evidence of oversized chamber in fired cases.
    Ed

    CW3 USA (Ret)
    VFW Life
    NRA Benefactor
    TX State Rifle Assn Life
    NY State Rifle and Pistol Assn Senior Member because I don't have to fight that fight in TX

  8. #8
    Boolit Master



    w5pv's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Orange,TX
    Posts
    2,625
    My Rossi 24 inch barrel in the 45C shoots closer that I can hold it,about 1" at 50 yards and everything that I have shot with it has fell like a sack of rocks.Love it Standard 255 grain bullet and I forget what powder I loaded with but I never load heavy loads.
    Are my kids/grandkids more important than "o"'s kids, to me they are,darn tooting they are!!! They deserve the same armed protection afforded "o"'s kids.
    I have been hoodwinked but not by"o"
    In God we trust,in "o" never trust
    Support those that support the Constitution and the 2nd Amendant

  9. #9
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Location
    central illinois
    Posts
    70
    Not sure if this counts as to your caliber ?, but I have a 24" rossi octagon rifle, blue and cch, in 44-40. Very accurate.

  10. #10
    Boolit Master




    Bzcraig's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Nampa, ID
    Posts
    3,465
    My Rossi does have an oversized chamber which I missed until I read a thread here about it and compared my fired brass to new brass and brass resized in my Lee carbide sizer. Got the steel RCBS sizer which will not over work the brass like a carbide sizer will.
    "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same......." - Ronald Reagan

    "It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather, we should thank God that such men lived." - George Patton

    The second amendment is a nail on which hangs a picture of freedom - member Alex 4x4 Tver, Russia

  11. #11
    Boolit Master
    runfiverun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    soda springs Id.
    Posts
    27,593
    I have both.
    the 44 is silver the 45 is blue that's how I tell them apart.
    other than that they get the same powder loads and reloaded the same way.
    it's all an educated guess,,,, till the trigger is pulled.

    this opinion brought to you by mister low-tech solution..

  12. #12
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    59
    Hi mate.

    Accuracy is generally no issue with the Rossi rifles, they perform fine and even better with some tweaking. There are a couple of websites/guides out there about physical modifications one can do to these lever guns to improve accuracy.

    My gun has issues due to a barrel problem that was done by the previous owner. Unfortunate because it is the 24 inch barrel, half round, half octagonal. It is fine for western action though.

    As for the chambers, mine does seem to split a few more cases than normal, I would imagine that if you could just neck size this might help. I have never cast mine or anything, nor have I heard too many complaints with the chamber from others.

    Note; mine is an older manufacture, I have a felling that on new/newer ones have better chambers.

    Cheerio

  13. #13
    Thanks guys.
    From the comments I'm reading it sounds like the 45s have better accuracy than the 44s, or is it just that there are more 45s out there.
    As for loads, I will need to load up a bit as I plan to use the rifle out to 200 yds for CLAS, and that would take a lot of sight adjustment with a heavy bullet and an anemic powder load.
    Hard work made me what I am today,
    Broken and broke
    ******************************
    Bob

  14. #14
    Boolit Master hornady308's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    North Carolina - in the Piedmont
    Posts
    262
    My 44 is more accurate than my 45 with cast bullets. The 45 has an oversized chamber that can handle .456" bullets, yet the bore slugs at .4515" and can be very picky about the bullets designs it likes. On the other hand, the 44 has never met a bullet design it didn't like and does very well with everything from the Lee 429-200-rf to the Lee C430-310-rf at 100 yards.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check