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    Back in the day, when I was a young fellow, trying to learn the Cowboy trade in the Big Bend of Texas, rolling your own cigarettes was a part of the trade. To do it right, you had to use one hand and never, never use glue paper. You could tell a Rexall Wranger (drug store cowboy) cause they smoked "ready rolls" (store bought cigarettes).

    All sorts of popular speech migrates from it's origins to some other usage. Objecting to it, is like pizzing in the wind.
    Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. Your mileage may vary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gewehr-Guy View Post
    Then strike a wood match on the back of your Levis back when they made real matches

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    As long as I can understand the info your trying to convey, I don't care what word or phrase you use.
    Failing that, I'll ask you to rephrase it.
    No PC police here. Using a colorful phrase to emphasis a thought often makes me pay closer attention. And yes, I have rolled my own in both definitions.
    As lots of Southern folks will tell ya, "Po folks has po ways". It doesn't take a PHD to understand the concept, but the PC police will have a field day.
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    Some languages use the same word for something but it is how you say it.
    English is still the best and all others use more words for the same. Listen how fast Spanish is spoken and how many more words are needed. How to get a mouth and tongue that fast is amazing. They say the same word with all different meanings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I want to play too: The one that confounds me is using "BBL" as short for "barrel".
    that one is me.
    Bbl is a volumetric measurement used in the oil field.
    it is short for 42 gallons or 1 Barrel [they stole it from the Rail Road anyway] and habit's are hard to break even if the rest of the world can't read them.

    I guess I could go all Canadian and express volumes as 'Cubes' or cubic meters.
    except I don't want to divide by liters then times that by 4 and divide again by 3.78 to get gallons.
    it's all an educated guess,,,, till the trigger is pulled.

    this opinion brought to you by mister low-tech solution..

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    Is this some form of 'Political Correctness' that has come to Cast Boolits?
    If so...I'm going to strive to use the boolits terminology even more now!
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    At Sunday dinner Easter I spoke with a family member that has moved away , She needed to buy a new grass cutter , but the people at the shop didn't understand her , eventually the salesman said o you mean a lawn mower . Then she got him straight by telling him no I have grass and weeds , fancy people have a lawn .

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    Fun thread but I don't think I'll stop calling my ammunition "hand-rolled" or my lube "home-brew."
    Though I do wish people would stop saying "heads" or "tips" when they talk about bullets.
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    I used to roll my own when i smoked pot.

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    well I never.........lol I did roll my own cigs for a while a few times mainly cuz of bein poor, now I have slowed down on the smoking, only smoke 2 swisher sweet cigarillos a day, used to be a pack and a half. and garyshome, I am sure your not the only one to have smoked a little pot in their past I think 60-70% of people have at least smoked once.
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    but that's besides the point. I do not like the whole Bbl thing either barrel has , count em', one b!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post
    Sometimes, I wonder that we're able to communicate with each other at all!
    "To any foreigner, English is exceedingly difficult. Even the angels speak it with an accent."
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    Quote Originally Posted by 44man View Post
    "PILLS" the best. They kill you. Go to the doc for pills and die faster. He could shoot you with a pill from a gun. But he wants years of kickbacks from drug companies.
    I also hate the slang. Bore or groove? Bullet or round? I try to keep straight.
    One thing I never understood is "Lock and load". Please explain where that came from.
    Yep; pills, shotty, Remmy, Winny- all stupid sounding slang to substitute for perfectly good existing words in an effort to sound knowledgeable and cool. OTOH, I like 'boolits' because it differentiates between copper clad mass production and hand crafted cast projectiles.

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    IIRC John Wayne in "Sands of Iwo Jima" yells lock and load and then places his rifle on safe and chambers a round. Don't know where it originated though.
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    It's a military command on the firing line. "Lock and load, one round!"

    It would make more sense if the phrase was load and lock, but t's not, and when you're a trainee you catch on pretty quick.

    It means load a round and lock the bolt down. It made the transition to semi autos, even to the Mattel toys used now.
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    It might mean chamber a round and lock the bolt but it is backwards. If it means put on safe and load, it still does not fit as most guns can't be put on safe until loaded or the bolt cocked. Put the safety on on many guns and the bolt can't be opened.
    Friends new Savage can't be put on safe until the bolt is cocked. Fire a round and you can not put it on safe before loading.
    It should have been load and lock.

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    Maybe the reason the term "lock and load" is backwards is that (just maybe) the command originated in England. After all --- they do drive on the wrong side(s) of the road ---- just saying.
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    Lock n' Load with R. Lee Ermey
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    Also known as Lock n' Load
    Genre Reality television
    Starring R. Lee Ermey
    Original language(s) English
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    I believe lock and load started with the M1 rifle.Initial training was done loading single rounds instead of the loaded clip.Safety was locked,one round was inserted in the chamber and the bolt closed.

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    First time I heard the term "roll your own", I immediately associated the idea with making "rolling" your own cigarettes even though I have never smoked. I was just familiar with the term and thought it was funny. I use it myself alot.

    However, when lubing brass to resize, I do roll it on a pad of lube, so I guess that can be considered true rolling.
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