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    My 105 shell

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    Anyone else have any old military casings? Shame a magnet sticks to it.

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    I've got the same thing, but shorter. Mine was a blank used for firing salutes.

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    I believe these were training rounds.

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    I've never seen anything quite like those. Anything blue is usually training. The one on the far right looks like a large JHP bullet. Maybe T-Rex hunting ammo?

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    And this one has not been identified, although I believe it to be a live round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Gebirgsjager View Post
    I've never seen anything quite like those. Anything blue is usually training. The one on the far right looks like a large JHP bullet. Maybe T-Rex hunting ammo?
    These 2 were brought back by a contractor working on a range at Ft Hood, That's all I know about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slim1836 View Post
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    I believe these were training rounds.

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    Looks like 40 mike mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by slim1836 View Post
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    I believe these were training rounds.

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    Specialty training, they may have been loaded with flash powder so on impact the FO would see the flash and smoke. I used something similar in 155mm and fired them at Marines driving around in tanks. It was fun ringing there bells, no wonder we call em jarheads

    Sometime I'll post up pics of some of the rounds I have, they have a tendency to scare the ill informed.
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    got a bunch of dummy training rounds, they stand about 3 foot tall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leebuilder View Post
    Looks like 40 mike mike
    I believe you are correct. I was a crewchief on a Huey, H model, but also had the opportunity to work on the weapons system on gunships. I have a couple of empty casings. the blue color is a code for an inert round, which actually means that the round does not contain High Explosives.

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    When I was laid up after my heart attack/6 way by pass work a friend dropped by my house. My Frau told him I was feeling pretty low and depressed. He produced a `Flowering plant` for me made from an 105 case. He had put a piece of styrofoam in the case mouth and pipe cleaners attached to different cartridges push into the foam. It struck me as so funny that I was nearly fainting from laughing so hard. That made my day as a pick - me - up. He was my best friend then, I miss him alot now that he`s gone for his ideas about humor. Yes, I still have that `plant` from 30 years ago.Robert

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    We have an empty 105mm case that is filled with change.

    And we also have this, 5"/38cal round from the BB Wisconsin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slim1836 View Post
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    And this one has not been identified, although I believe it to be a live round.

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    Slim, that looks like a "shot" round. That would be a solid tungsten projectile for armor piercing.
    How much does it weigh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pressman View Post
    Slim, that looks like a "shot" round. That would be a solid tungsten projectile for armor piercing.
    How much does it weigh?

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    I'll have to dig it out and weigh it, it's packed away in a footlocker. It looks like its been shot, but it also looks like some sort of primer in the end of it. It made its way here from Germany in the 60's.

    I had nothing to weigh it, however, I used the bathroom scales with the projectile and myself and then just myself and the difference was 1.6 lbs. hope it helps. also, I saw no rifling so if it has been shot, it may have been through a tube.

    It is probably European but may be something else.

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    "Shot" is the term applied to solid tungsten armor piercing projectiles. It does not mean a fired boolit.

    As in, From the 1960's: "driver stop!, gunner, shot, tank in open, range 900. "up". Fire! On the way" "Short, add 100 fire" "Up", On the way. Driver move out.

    Thinking about it I think you have a 105mm APDS, armor piercing, discarding sabot, projectile as fired from a M-60 series tank main gun. APDS allows for a smaller, higher velocity projectile than could normally be achieved with a bore diameter projectile. Velocity is everything when using kinetic energy armor piercing ammunition. The 90mm guns on the M-48's used a full bore projectile, the M-60, 105's did not.

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    I found a large brass casing in the sidewalk for trash pickup when I was a kid in the late 60's, and still have it storing a bunch of old arrows. It's a British 4.5 inch Mk I - V Naval Gun casing, 25 inches in length, solid brass and stamped 1961 (the year I was born, which is why I kept it).

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    I have which I believe is a 40 mm Bofors empty and a 25mm puteaux practice round (could have bought the cannon and 200 rounds for $2,500 back in 1988, had no place to shoot it, now I do, but no cannon!!). Just the ammo nowadays would be worth $$$$ The Bofors empty was sitting at the junk yard so paid scrap brass price for it ($3). Had a chance to buy a 37mm Hotchkiss revolving cannon about 10 years ago, for a really good price, passed it up. Kicking myself for doing so, also the 40mm german cannon that someone had lined so it would shoot 50bmg only. Might have taken a bit of work, but bet I could have re-activated it!! Hindsight is 20/20!!

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    I was in a scrap yard in Hutchinson Kansas and saw a shell for a 5" naval gun in the scrap brass pile. Had to have it!

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    Those grooves where probably for rotating bands that would have engraved the rifling rotating the projectile and keeping the hard steel away from the bore. That might be a base fuse. That type of AP round was designed to penetrate the armor then explode. I would guess it is a 37mm or 40mm round.

    A similar looking round is the Russian 85-mm BR-365K. Should be able to google a picture of it.

    I would treat it gently.

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