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View Poll Results: What bottle necked case/caliber would you use

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Thread: What caliber for smokeless patching

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    What caliber for smokeless patching

    Let's say you had the opportunity for a gun dedicated to smokeless patching with a 26" barrel. What caliber (in a bottle-necked case) would you choose and why? I am still leaning towards the .338-06 AI but am still able to be swayed. Whatever I do choose will be properly throated for PP.
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    I prefer the .30 cal. Easy to do and works well.

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    would have to be 32 win or 35 Rem = because I like bigger bullets = bigger bullets kill stuff deader
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    30 wcf. Because there is a powder available for this cartridge that measures to a full case. Having that full case of powder is just one of the many original tried & true Step's in P/P ing that does make a significant difference in accuracy. i.e. grouping tightness.

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    Of the options offered in your poll, the .30-30 and .30-06 would be my prime choices though I use a .30-40 as my primary big game gun with PP cast bullets. The long case neck is, for me, the prime factor in my cartridge choice. I have tried .300 Sav and .35 Rem without much luck as the base of the bullet is below the neck and bullet is damaged on firing with resulting inaccuracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dryball View Post
    Let's say you had the opportunity for a gun dedicated to smokeless patching with a 26" barrel. What caliber (in a bottle-necked case) would you choose and why? I am still leaning towards the .338-06 AI but am still able to be swayed. Whatever I do choose will be properly throated for PP.

    The chambering you are considering is WAY overbore for a cast bullet rifle. Good suggestions have been given by others. Find a .35 bore, and be a happy camper.
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    I went other because I've been to all of the above .
    I've been down to 6.5 and up to 45 . The Savage throat was both a blessing and a pain in the 06' as it was well used in the rifle I had . It paid dividends in the 308 and did good things . I only ran a few for the sake of investigation of concept for a 340 Savage in 30-30 . Twist killed me in the 6.5 before I could realize the potential of the WM and a 120 gr bullet . The 7mm is in the same boat generally with the 6.5 ,but with a small case and pressure limits holding a 140 gr bullet to 22-2300 fps it worked well . The 45s are just naturals from Schofield to 45-70 anyway . Even the 45 Raptor showed up , a rimless 460.
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    .35 Whelen, or maybe even .358 Winchester.
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    .338/06, .375 H&H and my favorite .416.Robert

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    I paper patch 0.358" bullets for my 9.3x74R so I don't have to pay Barns $1.00 each for his bullets.
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    I vote for 30-30 because its what I patch.
    I also make mouse fart loads as well.
    A 150-170 gn at 15-1600 fps is about 52 moa drop at 586yrds
    A 150 gn at 1000 fps is about the same at 328 yrds.

    It will do what I want it to do say 80-90% of what I perceive the need for.
    There is always that longer shot or some such.

    You will have to make your decision on what you think will cover most of the real work you need it for.

    I think it will still handle mostly anything I can come across at a reasonable hunting range.

    Anything past 150 -200 yrds is way to far to walk over to poke a dead animal.
    Hell seeing stuff that far is more of a challenge these days.

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    Not an expert in paper patching, but I've had really good luck patching the 45-70. For a bottleneck cartridge I would think the 30-30, 30-40 Krag or the 35cal variant of the 30-30 world be ideal.

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    Boolit Master Nobade's Avatar
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    I'm with you barrabruce, I have shot highpower silhouette with a 30-30 and cast bullets. It works great. Either grease groove or paper patched, it is easy to work with and quite effective. Especially with a properly designed chamber.

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    Boolit Master bearcove's Avatar
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    30-30 for sure. If you want to hunt bigger that whitetails then go to a 35. 338 is a jacketed cal unless you want a limited selection of molds.
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