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Thread: Is your Ruger #3 a "knuckle scraper"?

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    Ever use multi-ball loads in the 45-70?
    I never did while I had one and wish'd I'd a given it a try.

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    By the way, still have the 458-270 WFN from LBT so I really need to have another 45-70!

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    Yes, have tried up to 3 round balls @900 fps. 3 will land in 2-3" @ 25 yds.

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    I put #1 stock and forearm on mine and love it , its a 223 tho and dont kick all that much .
    Picked the Stock and Forearm up for 50 from a friend
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    two ball loads at 50 yards w/iron sights #3 Ruger 45-70.

    one strayed from lower to upper target, otherwise would be good crowd control.


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    My 30-40 krag no 3 ruger is not a bad problem at the shoulder, not like a 45-70 would be.

    But for the lever and fingers, I have to really concentrate on a firm and well positioned grip - not perfect then, but better.


    I like the number 3 as a rifle. My 22 Hornet is great.

    I would like a 45-70 in no 3, but wonder if I could handle it at lever and finger junction.
    With shoulder pad enough I could probably make the shoulder recoil work for a few rounds.

    Perhaps a supple non bulky leather glove could help.
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    Anyone happen to know the rate of twist for the # 3's in .223 ?
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    I'm thinking it's 1:12 as it came out before any of the heavy long bullets so 55 grain was standard weight.
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    Yes the twist in my #3 is 1-12 , I have shot 53 g Serria HPBT in it since 1977 and it will shoot a one hole group. I load it with 23.5 g of H335 , I have never had to rezero it since I put the scope on it in 78 or 79 when I bent the scope that was on it , Sent it back to Weaver and they replaced it with a new one and its been on there ever since , its my go to Varmint gun, and the only gun I will not part with.
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    Thanks Artful and kmrra - I would have bet 1 x 12. Have had a chance at a couple of # 3's in 223 over the years - and never bit the hook. I am eyeing one at the moment but it's pricey.
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    Todays results 10 shots at 20 yards with an elbow rest. 3" at wide point.

    LPP, 12 gr Unique, card wad, corn meal to bring ball 1/2 way out, Hornady .458 ball coated w/Lee Alox, light crimp.
    cases are not sized or belled.

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    A close friend (now deceased) owned a #3 in 30/40 Krag. He was a well seasoned handloader who loved to experiment and push the envelope. His experience was that the #3 action was much stronger than most anything else chambered for the Krag cartridge. I don't have any of his handloading notes but he reported the only limiting factor was the strength of the brass cases. He was getting higher velocity in his rifle than would be seen in any handloading manual with no signs of pressure at his final load level. He had loaded higher, and when pressure signs appeared he backed off the loads to establish his top pressure benchmark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thin Man View Post
    A close friend (now deceased) owned a #3 in 30/40 Krag. He was a well seasoned handloader who loved to experiment and push the envelope. His experience was that the #3 action was much stronger than most anything else chambered for the Krag cartridge. I don't have any of his handloading notes but he reported the only limiting factor was the strength of the brass cases. He was getting higher velocity in his rifle than would be seen in any handloading manual with no signs of pressure at his final load level. He had loaded higher, and when pressure signs appeared he backed off the loads to establish his top pressure benchmark.
    I have an old Hogdon manual that lists 30-40 loads for strong actions such as the #3. They show velocities that match or beat 308 Winchester loads. The Ruger will easily handle very hot loads if you are interested in that type of thing.
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    Strength was one of the reasons I chose the No.3 action for my cast boolit deer rifle... I could develop compressed slow powder loads with mag primers without so much worry.

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    I've got small hands never got bit with 45/70, but my fat fingered old man was always crying
    about it. He also always complained about Ruger SBH busting his knuckles. Right now I have
    223, 375win, 45/70 in #3s. The 223 I got when #3s were first out. My load is Hornady 55gr SX
    #2260/ 26.5 gr Hogdon BL-C2/MV = 3100fps. This is my walk-about varmit gun have K10 scope
    on it. When I first got it, tried Sierra 52g HP Match bullets, shot extremely well but wouldn't expand on Ghogs.

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BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
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