45 ACP dated 1911 11th month.

[Big Mak]

Found these about 3 years ago in a box of old ammo.

3 are Frankford Arsenal dated 1911 Nov and 1911 Dec. And a stripper clip.

Kinda cool!

[ascast]

stripper is just storage, right?

[Big Mak]

And some old copper .45-70 500 gr rounds from the 1800's (Box in pic is more modern)

[Big Mak]

stripper is just storage, right?

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I believe so.

[10-x]

Stripper clip is for 03 or 1917. Wish I could post pics..........

[gtrpickr]

Thats a pretty cool find

[Olut]

A question on "vintage .45 ACP cartridges". The 1911 dated ones posted by Big Mak appear to be loaded with standard copper bullets. In 1958, I bought a complete 1912 manufactured Colt NAVY model 1911 rig that came with a loaded magazine from a WWI destroyer captain. I later sold the gun to pay my daughter's tuition bill but kept 6 of the 7 cartridges. These are dated 1 12, 2 12, 8 12, 10 12, and 12 12. All have a silvery plating over the copper bullet. Was that typical for 1912 Frankfort Arsenal ammunition, or?

[TNsailorman]

Probably cupri nickel jacketed bullets. I am not an ammo expert by any means but when I was younger I remember some ammo being around that had a silvery jacket which the old timers called cupri ammo. I am speaking from a long time ago and could be wrong. james

[fatelk]

The old .45acp ammo from that era had "tinned" bullets. It's a thin tin wash over a regular copper jacketed bullet. It comes off pretty easy if you polish them. I have lots of WWI .45 acp ammo with tinned bullets.

I like the early .45 rounds. I have a couple from 1912, but none from any earlier. I actually shot a few dated 1917 a couple months ago, just to say I shot 100 year old ammo. They fired and functioned just like brand new ammo. I even launched one over the chronograph, and velocity was right were it should be.

[slim1836]

I wish I could find some casings with 1917 markings on them to go with my Colt .45 ACP that was made that year. I'd load up some dummy loads for display purposes.

Slim

[3006guns]

Ever read Hatcher's Notebook, the section on early "tin can" 30-06 ammo? They found that the bullets tended to cold solder themselves to the case mouth, jacking chamber pressures up.

[fortrenokid]

I too have some WWI-era and pre-WWI 45acp ammo with the silvery coating on the bullets. Scratch it or polish with steel wool and the copra-nickle jacket is just underneath.

[Bayou52]

A while back, a friend gave me a 1911 round date stamped 1916. Naturally, I had to try it out and shoot it. Put it in a Blackhawk and gave it a whirl. Well, I heard the primer ignite, but no bang. I kept the pistol pointed and gripped hard, and about a half second later it detonated.

So, a hangfire wasn't a bad performance for a 100 year old round.....Quite impressive, actually.....

Bayou52

[Big Mak]

^^ wow! delayed fuse eh?

[kens]

I have a question about the 1911,
In the movie "Titanic" the villain had a nickel 1911.
Is it possible for him to have a civilian 1911 on the Titanic when it sank?
Possible to have it in nickel in that time also?