Coyotes, kill all you can

[texasnative46]

starmac,

Last Summer in South TX it was said that, "Trees were seeking out dogs."

Btw, do you know about, "sail rabbits"??

yours, tex

[9.3X62AL]

Starmac--

Since you spent a bit of time around the Ft. Irwin area........did you happen to see any of the stick lizards that inhabit Kelso Dunes just east of the army base?

Now, most folks know them as the desert iguana. They make cool pets--we had one that set up housekeeping in a border flower bed along the south edge of our condo in Ridgecrest. His idea of heaven, with all of those blossoms to chew on.

The iguanas that live in the wastes of Kelso Dunes and similar sand hills of the western deserts have a tougher row to hoe, however--especially in high summer. Ground temperatures in the white sands sometimes exceed 150* F, and things are worse on the black craggy basalt near the many volcanoes that dot the landscape. In July, the iguanas leave the basalt crags that sustain them in the cooler months and survive as best they can in the relatively cooler (but still quite hostile) sand dunes of the Mojave.

An adaptation these critters make to their harsh circumstances is unique in the animal world. During their late spring migration from basalt to sand, they locate a branch of brittlebush before entering the dune area and coil their tails around it, carrying it around with them throughout their summer sojourn within the dune fields. If required to run across the hot sands during mid-day, they go for as long as their feet can stand it--then stab the end of the branch into the soil--and climb up the branch to let their feet cool off. With feet cooled, they clamber back down to the sand--seize the branch in their tail--and resume their journey until once again their feet become uncomfortable--when the process is repeated. The iguana travels in this manner until shade is reached. Locals refer to these as "stick lizards". Taxonomy lesson concluded.

[richhodg66]

Early in my Army career, I swore if I ever got PCS orders to Irwin and couldn't get out of it, I'd slit my wrists. And I meant it. That place sucks 1000% of the time and in every way imaginable. Anything that didn't suck 1000% of the time in every way imaginable, the US government spent time, money and effort to make it suck worse until it met that standard.

I'd rather live in Baghdad than Fort Irwin. And deserts generally don't bother me, I was stationed at Bliss a long time and liked it pretty well.

[Gus Youmans]

richdog66,

The Army was threatening to send me from Europe to some undesignated office job somewhere back in CONUS and when I asked for Ft. Irwin instead, they were happy to oblige. I spent four years there and the three I spent as an OC in the desert were some of the most rewarding of my Army career. The year I spent in the Star Wars building was not any fun but it was still better than whatever pogue job I would have gotten instead.

To bring this back to the original topic of the thread, I saw a lot of coyotes but never shot one.

Gus Youmans

[JDL]

I do, every chance I get.

[white eagle]

that bottom one looks like he has mange bad
you did him a favor
the middle looks like a nice fur top
may be a bit of mange as well
nice lookin fire sticks

[starmac]

I did not see or even know of the stick lizards, but then I didn't rally spend time at FT Irwin, just hauled a couple of loads in there.

[M-Tecs]

JDL very nice. What manufacture rifle is the bottom one? I don't know what it is but I like it.

[9.3X62AL]

Nice rifles, indeed. Nothing makes a day like processing & rehabbing a coyote. (Except home-made cinnamon rolls at Christmas time. THAT is hard to beat). But you get my drift.

[JDL]

Top pic: CZ-527 in 7.62x39 (2004)
Middle: Husqvarna 1900 in .30'06 (S&W marked) (1970)
Bottom: Husqvarna 1600 in .30'06 (1958)

Yeah, that bottom one was killed early on a cold December morning. When a friend of mine saw it he said, "You killed a chupacabra."

[salpal48]

I would never think Of killing Them. Living just above NYC. , we have a lot Of them. In the parks, On the trail. There just about Friendly. Once In while You here They Attack a Dog Or so. . Last Year 2 were sitting On my Porch

[M-Tecs]

Yes Friendly


http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/10/29/canada.singer.killed/index.html

Canadian folk singer killed by coyotes, park official says

October 30, 2009 3:36 p.m. EDT


Up-and-coming Canadian folk singer Taylor Mitchell was killed by coyotes, park officials say.

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

• Taylor Mitchell was at the Skyline Trail in Cape Breton Highlands National Park
• Hikers saw coyotes attack Mitchell and called 911; she later died at a Halifax hospital
• Park where attack occurred remains closed; coyote believed to be involved has been shot
• Mitchell was nominated for Young Performer of the Year by Canadian Folk Music Awards

(CNN) -- A rising Canadian folk singer was killed by coyotes this week in a national park in Nova Scotia, a park spokesman said Thursday.
Taylor Mitchell, 19, was at the beginning of the Skyline Trail in Cape Breton Highlands National Park on Tuesday afternoon when she was attacked, according to Chip Bird, the Parks Canada field unit superintendent for Cape Breton.
Bird said hikers saw the coyotes attacking Mitchell and called 911. She was airlifted to a hospital in Halifax, where she died about 12 hours later, he said.
Mitchell was recently nominated for Young Performer of the Year honors by Canadian Folk Music Awards. She was touring the Maritime provinces and had a break between gigs to go hiking Tuesday, her manager, Lisa Weitz, said in an e-mail.
"She loved the woods and had a deep affinity for their beauty and serenity," she wrote.



Map: Cape Breton Highlands National Park


RELATED TOPICS

• Folk Music
• Nova Scotia
• Canada

"Words can't begin to express the sadness and tragedy of losing such a sweet, compassionate, vibrant, and phenomenally talented young woman," Weitz said.
"Her warmth, loving nature, astounding artistry, and infectious enthusiasm will be so missed and forever remembered."
Read more about who Taylor Mitchell was
Mitchell, who was originally from the Georgian Bay area in Ontario, lived in Toronto, Weitz said.
Bird said the area where the attack occurred is popular and well traveled. It remained closed, and park authorities had shot one coyote believed to be involved. A pathologist will test the animal's body for diseases that might have triggered the attack, he said.
Searches for other aggressive animals in the park continue, he said.
"Public safety is our primary concern," he said.
He said no other coyote attacks had ever occurred in the park. "We've had coyotes approach people too closely," he said, and about six years ago one nipped a person.
That animal was killed because of "lack of fear," he said.
But Tuesday's attack is "unprecedented and a totally isolated incident," he said.
In a written statement, Emily Mitchell described her daughter as "a seasoned naturalist and well versed in wilderness camping. She loved the woods and had a deep affinity for their beauty and serenity. Tragically it was her time to be taken from us so soon.
"We take a calculated risk when spending time in nature's fold -- it's the wildlife's terrain," Emily Mitchell's statement continued. "When the decision had been made to kill the pack of coyotes, I clearly heard Taylor's voice say, 'please don't, this is their space.' She wouldn't have wanted their demise, especially as a result of her own. She was passionate about animals, was an environmentalist, and was also planning to volunteer at the Toronto Wildlife Centre in the coming months."
Send your stories, photos of Mitchell
Michael Johnston, Mitchell's producer for her debut album, "For Your Consideration," said the singer was a "brilliant and beautiful light that people were naturally drawn to."
"She was so young and talented. Her big dreams were a perfect match with her big, kind heart."
He said he and his family would soon be organizing a celebration of her life.
Coyote attacks on humans are extremely rare, said Michael O'Brien, wildlife manager of furbearers and upland game for Nova Scotia.
It is "not expected or normal behavior," he said, although he said there had been aggressive incidents in Nova Scotia before, but no deaths.
Illness, injury and familiarity with humans can affect an animal's behavior, he said.

[kobeinu]

Hmmm. Friendly, that's funny.

We don't hear or see them but the have to be around the MD, VA, PA area. Is it necessary to get electronic calls and all the stuff YouTube and the magazines tell you you NEED? I'd consider it as we don't see or hear them.

[richhodg66]

Yes Friendly


http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/10/29/canada.singer.killed/index.html

Canadian folk singer killed by coyotes, park official says

October 30, 2009 3:36 p.m. EDT


Up-and-coming Canadian folk singer Taylor Mitchell was killed by coyotes, park officials say.

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

• Taylor Mitchell was at the Skyline Trail in Cape Breton Highlands National Park
• Hikers saw coyotes attack Mitchell and called 911; she later died at a Halifax hospital
• Park where attack occurred remains closed; coyote believed to be involved has been shot
• Mitchell was nominated for Young Performer of the Year by Canadian Folk Music Awards

(CNN) -- A rising Canadian folk singer was killed by coyotes this week in a national park in Nova Scotia, a park spokesman said Thursday.
Taylor Mitchell, 19, was at the beginning of the Skyline Trail in Cape Breton Highlands National Park on Tuesday afternoon when she was attacked, according to Chip Bird, the Parks Canada field unit superintendent for Cape Breton.
Bird said hikers saw the coyotes attacking Mitchell and called 911. She was airlifted to a hospital in Halifax, where she died about 12 hours later, he said.
Mitchell was recently nominated for Young Performer of the Year honors by Canadian Folk Music Awards. She was touring the Maritime provinces and had a break between gigs to go hiking Tuesday, her manager, Lisa Weitz, said in an e-mail.
"She loved the woods and had a deep affinity for their beauty and serenity," she wrote.



Map: Cape Breton Highlands National Park


RELATED TOPICS

• Folk Music
• Nova Scotia
• Canada

"Words can't begin to express the sadness and tragedy of losing such a sweet, compassionate, vibrant, and phenomenally talented young woman," Weitz said.
"Her warmth, loving nature, astounding artistry, and infectious enthusiasm will be so missed and forever remembered."
Read more about who Taylor Mitchell was
Mitchell, who was originally from the Georgian Bay area in Ontario, lived in Toronto, Weitz said.
Bird said the area where the attack occurred is popular and well traveled. It remained closed, and park authorities had shot one coyote believed to be involved. A pathologist will test the animal's body for diseases that might have triggered the attack, he said.
Searches for other aggressive animals in the park continue, he said.
"Public safety is our primary concern," he said.
He said no other coyote attacks had ever occurred in the park. "We've had coyotes approach people too closely," he said, and about six years ago one nipped a person.
That animal was killed because of "lack of fear," he said.
But Tuesday's attack is "unprecedented and a totally isolated incident," he said.
In a written statement, Emily Mitchell described her daughter as "a seasoned naturalist and well versed in wilderness camping. She loved the woods and had a deep affinity for their beauty and serenity. Tragically it was her time to be taken from us so soon.
"We take a calculated risk when spending time in nature's fold -- it's the wildlife's terrain," Emily Mitchell's statement continued. "When the decision had been made to kill the pack of coyotes, I clearly heard Taylor's voice say, 'please don't, this is their space.' She wouldn't have wanted their demise, especially as a result of her own. She was passionate about animals, was an environmentalist, and was also planning to volunteer at the Toronto Wildlife Centre in the coming months."
Send your stories, photos of Mitchell
Michael Johnston, Mitchell's producer for her debut album, "For Your Consideration," said the singer was a "brilliant and beautiful light that people were naturally drawn to."
"She was so young and talented. Her big dreams were a perfect match with her big, kind heart."
He said he and his family would soon be organizing a celebration of her life.
Coyote attacks on humans are extremely rare, said Michael O'Brien, wildlife manager of furbearers and upland game for Nova Scotia.
It is "not expected or normal behavior," he said, although he said there had been aggressive incidents in Nova Scotia before, but no deaths.
Illness, injury and familiarity with humans can affect an animal's behavior, he said.

Tragic. I noticed it's in a National Park which means when they see humans, they don't get shot at. Makes a difference. I sure wouldn't let them sit on my front porch.

[RPRNY]

In the winter time when the snow is deep and the health deer have a hard time with the snow the coyotes will run them down and take them out.So it is BS that they only take the sick.I seen out here one winter that with the deep snow for the deer and have a hard time to find something to eat .The coyotes was working them over more ways then one.

Absolutely. In Aroostock County, Maine, where the coywolves regularly weigh in at 70-80 lbs, their stock-in-trade in the deep snow is just to trot along behind the deer herd in the track they broke. No big rush, just keep the pressure on. Eventually the young, the sick, or the elderly will drop back or fall down, and then the coyote are on them.

Where I live in CO the little Western 'yotes work in packs to take pets. One or two will try to draw a dog, get it to follow it into brush or deep grass, then, wham, 5 - 6 coyote will hit Fido hard and fast.

[M-Tecs]

http://www.desertusa.com/animals/coy...nd-people.html

The Coyote and People

Coyote Attacks

As humans expand their living areas and coyotes expand their range as well, contact is inevitable. Most of the time, coyotes go out of their way to avoid humans, but they are discovering that humans are a good source for food. Resourceful and adaptable as coyotes are, they will take advantage of this when they can. In urban areas and in some National Parks the coyotes are changing their behavior.

The most serious problem is that the animals may become habituated to people. As they lose their fear of people, they will become bolder in approaching people and may put themselves in hazardous situations they would normally avoid.

Coyote Attacks
Coyotes have attacked people. It is not common, but there have been more attacks reported in recent years due to the urbanization and population growth of cities that boarder wildlife areas.

“Coyote attacks on humans and pets have increased within the past 5 years in California. Forty-eight such attacks on children and adults were verified from 1998 through 2003, compared to 41 attacks during the period 1988 through 1997; most incidents occurred in Southern California near the suburban-wildland interface.” (Coyote Attacks: An Increasing Suburban Problem, Timm and Baker ’04)
“Out of the 89 Coyote attacks in California, 56 of the attacks caused injury to one or more people. Out of those that caused injury, 55% were attacks on adults. In 35 incidents, where coyotes stalked or attacked small children, the possibility of serous or fatal injury seemed likely if the child had not been rescued.” (Coyote Attacks: An Increasing Suburban Problem, Timm and Baker ’04)

Normally coyotes are timid and shy away from people, but they have been known to attack people. There is only 1 known fatality that occurred in California in 1981. A 3 year-old girl was attacked and killed by a coyote when she was playing unattended in her front yard.

If people feed coyotes or if there is a food source associated with humans the coyotes will become less fearful of people and more attacks will occur. So in order to reduce or eliminate attacks it is VERY important that we condition the coyotes to fear people. People can help condition coyotes by doing the following:

1. NEVER feed coyotes
2. Remove coyote food sources such as trash, fruit and pet food from the environment.
3. Keeping small pets inside from dusk to dawn or in safe enclosures
4. Never leave young children unattended in yards or parks.
5. Harass coyotes with loud noises, clapping hands, yelling, throwing rocks at them and waving our arms to create fear
6. Call the local department of Fish and Game or local law enforcement agency if coyotes attack humans, become too aggressive by approaching humans and by showing lack of fear of humans or if they attack small pets.

Coyote Vital Statics

• Weight: 15-45 lbs.
• Length with tail: 40-60"
• Shoulder Height: 15-20"
• Sexual Maturity: 1-2 years
• Mating Season: Jan-March
• Gestation Period: 58-65 days
• No. of Young: 2-12, 6 avg.
• Birth Interval: 1 year
• Lifespan: 15 years in the wild
• Typical diet: Small mammals, insects, reptiles, fruit & carrion

Read more: http://www.desertusa.com/animals/coy...#ixzz4dKGUBsjp

[Traffer]

I figure if God didn't want us to shoot coyotes he wouldn't have invented the gun. Or was it the #2 Conibear? I get confused.

[finstr]

I kill as many coyotes as I can, all year long. The springtime is the most productive as the females are pregnant and once they have pups the males do most of the hunting.Either way they seem to be easier to call. I have a fawn decoy and a Mojo Critter that I use in the spring/summer. If I can find a decent road kill animal like a rabbit or coon I'll use some of that for the scent along with the decoy and call.
The winter months a group of us use hounds to hunt coyotes. Usually get 30-40 during the winter. I know other groups that get twice that amount or better.

[white eagle]

all this coyote talk I had to go out and do some screamin
bout 45 min into my last stand I hit the rite note and the whole
hillside lit up with coyote song thought I was a shoe in but alas
nothing poked its head out

[LAKEMASTER]

They are in my back yard every night.

I should really set up/ learn how to set up a neck snare